In The Garden: Identify a tree from a leaf

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  1. Perky

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    Please help me identify the tree this leaf came from. The owner of the tree thinks it is a Japanese Maple and was purchased and planted in the North Georgia mountains 30 – 40 years ago. It is approx. 40 feet tall and wide, has a deep green/purple leaf. The leaves are about 4" X 4", unlike small split leaf Japanese Maples that are popular in this area today. I gathered this leaf in the fall so the color is not true to that of a live leaf. There are leaves on the tree that are larger and smaller than this one. When viewing the tree from a distance it gives a very deep geenish/deep purple/burgundy color. Please help me identify the tree and suggest where I may purchase one. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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  2. M. D. Vaden

    M. D. Vaden Active Member 10 Years

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    If purchased ...

    Crimson King Norway maple ?

    Leaf shape fits with the box outline of the outer lobes.

    There is one variety called 'Spaethii' that has a really nifty purple underside to the leaf. It would be my first choice over say, Crimson King, where most of the tree looks purple.

    Acer pseudoplatanus is the regular tree.
     
  3. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Ditto to Acer platanoides, 'Crimson King' or similar cultivar.

    Can be an invasive weed tree in your area.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Norway maple is A. platanoides. A. pseudoplatanus is sycamore maple.

    There are multiple purple-leaved cultivars of Norway maple. Planted specimens of these also give off purple or purplish seedlings. In fact, Norway maple is an invasive weed tree in much of North America, filling woodlands with its alien progeny. Even in the summer dry climate of Seattle a shaded ravine has an appalling infestation numbering perhaps even in the millions.

    Purpleleaf sycamore maples sold as 'Spaethii' are actually referable to 'Atropurpureum' or even just f. atropurpureum.
     
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    Thanks everyone!! I am off to purchase one!
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Do you really want to buy something that will be a continual nuisance in the future?
     
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    Thanks for your question Michael. Is the 'Spaethii' also invasive?
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    I see on the USDA site they don't show Norway maple as having been seen wild in the South.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    My point was purple-leaved sycamore maples sold as 'Spaethii' aren't actually that variety.
     
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    We are in the N. Ga. mountains, zone 6, about 3,000 ft. and I am trying to identify a tree that is growing in a neighbor's yard. It was purchased from a catalog and planted by the current owner's grandparents. It is about 40' x 40', and appears very happy. It gives off a very purple/burgundy color in summer. The owner thinks it is a Japanese Maple, if so, it is much larger than any Japqanese maple I can find on the internet. I'm a real novice at this. Thanks for any help.
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    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    Perky, I'm confused. You description sounds just like the description at the start of this thread. Is this another tree?
     
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    It is the same tree. I'm confused with some of the responses I've received and attempted to clarify what my purpose is. Thanks.
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    Everyone is in agreement that the leaf in you pic is from a purple leaved Norway maple probably called Crimson King. The latin for this is Acer platanoides Crimson King. Ron B says it is not a problem in your area. See....

    http://images.google.com/images?q=A...eid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    (I see why you got confused, as another purple maple also got mentioned. The purple Sycamore. Acer pseudoplatanus Atropurpureum, sometimes sold as Acer pseudoplatanus Spaethii. This is a completely different tree to your leaf.)

    Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you even more!!!!
     
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    Thank you for clearing things up for me. I looked at the URL you sent and I think that is surely THE tree I'm looking for. Thank you again.
    Perky
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Regardless of what the original tree - which may not be 'Crimson King' at all - is 'Crimson King' is the predominant purple-leaved Norway maple cultivar in commerce and probably the one to look for. Otherwise, 'Royal Red (leaf)' could be a little better. Nurseries may have this one mixed up with 'Faassen's Black' and 'Crimson King' - these are all superficially quite similar to one another.
     
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    Thank you very much. This information will make my shopping easier.
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