Identification and viability of sucker growing from damaged japanese maple

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  1. kthom99

    kthom99 Member

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    My young Tamukeyama Cutleaf Japanese Maple lost all of its branches after this last winter. It now has a sucker with all green leaves growing from the base of its trunk. Can anyone identify what this might be? Since the original tree is now gone completely, is it possible the sucker can grow into a healthy viable tree? If so, the tree is planted quite close to the house and, if it is of a larger cultivar, it will have to be moved.
     
  2. whis4ey

    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    The sucker will be a Japanese maple (not a cultivar) and your guess is as good as anybody's as to what it will grow into
     
  3. maf

    maf Generous Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    One thing we can be fairly sure of is that the rootstock will be more vigorous and grow larger and quicker than the Tamukeyama. At a very rough estimate expect 3 metres high after 10 years and 5m after twenty and slow growth thereafter. Of course it can be kept smaller with regular pruning, and the roots are not the type that will damage the foundations or anything.

    Why not let it grow for a couple of years to see if you like it before making a decision to either leave it where it is, move it or kill it?
     
  4. boloxis

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    Hi, Im a newbie. Just some questions about japanese maples, Im in Vancouver BC, I've got about 14 different cultivars

    1. About watering, is it preferable to wet the leaves or not?
    2. When can I cut off a major branch that is already starting to die? because of transplant shock...
    3. Can you please give me a link to a reliable seed harvesting and propagating procedure? Is it worth it or it just takes too much time to grow?
    4. Are all Seiryu green or are some types of Seiryu are red? I saw a Seiryu tree (label says) at a store one time (summer) but its just on a rootball bag, I'm not sure if it just bronzed/dry or is it really red like that even in the trunk/branches but its leaves shape are the same as my green Seiryu.
    5. In your experience which is the most resistant to bronzing in full sun and which gives out the best, brightest red? Emperor 1, Bloodgood, Fireglow, Shojo or Suminagashi? I really don't like dark burgundy colors but its really hard to distinguish these 5 cultivras.
     
  5. maf

    maf Generous Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    Hi boloxis, and welcome. I think your questions would get a better response if you started a new thread in which to ask them. (If you are not sure look at this page for a quick guide http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=644.) That said, I will take a quick stab at answering some of them.

    1. Doesn't really matter. I water the pot/soil only but many other people spray the leaves. If you live in a hard water area you might eventually get some white build up on the leaves if you spray them.

    2. If you are sure the branch is dieing it is best to cut it back to healthy wood as soon as possible. If the leaves are dead but the wood seems healthy it is best to wait and see.

    3. See this thread: http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=11439

    4. I believe there was at one time a red form of Seiryu created by repeatedly grafting onto red rootstock; if it still exists it would be rare I guess. A stressed out regular Seiryu could also look red under the right circumstances.

    (P.S. I hope and trust that you are genuine, boloxis, and that your screen-name is not just a shorthand way of saying "bollocks" to anyone, like myself, who might take the time and trouble to answer your questions. I know most Americans wouldn't understand the word but I don't know about Canadians. As a comparison, if my name was fukyuu, or similar, you probably wouldn't answer my questions.)
     
  6. kaspian

    kaspian Active Member 10 Years

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    Most American gardeners, on the other hand, are Anglophiles. And most American liberals just spent eight years pretending to be Canadian. We're a confused lot but we know what bollocks are.

    I would add to #3: Growing from seed is fun and rewarding, though it does require patience, and you do need to keep in mind that the offspring are not likely to have many of the special characteristics that distinguish a named cultivar. The uncertainty is part of the adventure.
     
  7. maf

    maf Generous Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    Glad to hear it! It goes without saying that I did not mean to underestimate (or offend) any liberals, Anglophiles or more importantly gardeners.
     
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    I appreciate your help lads, I don't mean anything by my screen name and I've never been anywhere near Europe to be comfortable saying bullocks to anybody although I have lots of Scottish friends. I'm also an old timer so I'm not very familiar using these internet forums.

    I hope you guys can still answer my fifth question, in your preference, which is the best upright RED japanese maple?
     

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