ID Help - Fruit Tree?

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  1. Shyzaboy

    Shyzaboy Active Member

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    Please help.

    These pictures were taken in Stockholm, Sweden. The flower seems a lot like plum or pear. The immature fruit doesn't seem to fit, but I can't find any good pix of different immature fruits to compare.

    Thanks in advance!
    Doug
     

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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    I think a big part of the problem is that the inflorescence in the left shot is diseased and monstrous.
     
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    If that's the case, then are the pix of the flowers and the leaves insufficient to identify the tree?
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    Until they fruit, most pomes (ie apples, pears, plums, quinces etc) look remarkably similar. Same goes for the stone fruits (cherried, plums, apricots, peaches and nectarines) the flowers of which can sometimes resemble the hard pomes. There's no sense of scale with your photos, so I can't narrow it down by size of bloom.

    I would say that it's definitely in the Rosaceae, either in the sf Maloideae or the sf Prunoideae, but I wouldn't go any further than that until it fruits.

    Wait for it to sett, then post further pics.

    edit - hold teh phone... looking at it, it's leaning towards Prunoideae. That'd be stone-fruit pomes ie plums or cherries. I will tell you that it's not an apricot.
     
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    I will be back in Stockholm this year, but it will be at about the same time (mid May) that I took the pictures last year.

    And whether or not I'll have a chance to replicate my meandering path through the city is still up in the air.

    Thanks!
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    You know, you could always ask a local....
     
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    Of course.

    I tend to spend a couple of hours wandering about the different places that I visit on business. Snap pictures of whatever catches my eye.

    Once I get home, I go all OCD trying to identify everything...

    I never seem to think of IDs when I'm snapping pix, though...
     
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    lorax Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    I use the ellipsis because I'm exactly the same way. Then I get home and smack my head against the wall, as I was often with a person who could give me an ID on the spot.

    So, for example I'm stuck with a green-flowering deciduous tropical tree and the vague conviction that it's a Tabebuia but no definite ID and really no way of finding out now what it is. It's even got the experts here stumpered.
     
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    I'm usually by myself in this type of situation. And sometimes, like in this case, I don't even look over the pix for ten months. Sigh...
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    It has a superior ovary, so probably a species of Prunus. I'd say most likely Prunus padus (Bird Cherry), a common native species in most of Sweden.
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Geographic location points to that one, another similar one is P. virginiana which is cultivated in Europe. They can be distinguished by anatomical features such as the surfaces of the pits.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    True, though only very rarely. But equally, that is why I said "most likely"!
     
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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Only P. virginiana currently listed (10 suppliers) by RHS Plant Finder (for UK) is purpleleaf cultivar 'Schubert'. Brightness, shape and spacing of flowers shown also looks more like P. padus. Taper of leaves shown not typical for this but we are not looking at a complete sample of mature leaves.
     

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