ID: 2 wild flowers + 3 cones

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  1. lettuce

    lettuce Active Member

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    could the cones be:
    1st cone - Larix decidua
    2nd cone - Larix x eurolepis
    3rd cone - Pinus halepensis
     

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    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    1. Looks like Lychnis flos-cuculi. Common name Ragged Robin.
     
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    2. is from the Fabaceae; whether it's peas or beans remains to be seen. I'd let it form pods and see what they most closely resemble.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Yep, correct on the cones, except that the correct name for #2 is Larix × marschlinsii, the name L. × eurolepis is a later synonym.

    Flower #2 is Lotus corniculatus or some other closely related species in that genus.
     
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    Robert Flogaus-Faust Active Member 10 Years

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    #2 is very probably Lotus. It could well be Lotus corniculatus agg.
     
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    oh, thanks for pointing that out!!!! I've heard of Larix × marschlinsii before but never really knew which is the correct one.
    btw, I have that tree guide by Johnson & More where it's named Larix × eurolepis... oh well...
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    I looked at Johnson & More a while back and was sufficiently disappointed with it not to bother getting it - that might have been one of the things that influenced me! The relevant paper was published in 1983 (de Candolle & Burdet, The Correct Name of the Dunkeld, or Hybrid, Larch, IDS Yearbook 1982: 67-68), so they ought really to have had this right.
     
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    can you tell who came up with L. x eurolepis and when? and why is it an improper name?

    is there a source on the internet where I can read IDS Yearbook 1982: 67-68?
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Hi Lettuce,

    Larix × marschlinsii Coaz, Schweiz. Z. Forstwesen 68: 1-14 (1917).

    Larix × eurolepis A.Henry, Irish Times 29 June 1919, & Gard. Chron. ser.3, 66: 3-4 (1919). It is improper as it is not the oldest validly published name, with Coaz' name being 2 years older.

    A number of texts incorrectly claim that Larix × marschlinsii is a hybrid L. sibirica × L. kaempferi; however, de Candolle & Burdet state that Coaz clearly indicated the parentage of his hybrid to be L. decidua × L. kaempferi.

    Sorry, de Candolle & Burdet's paper is not available online. I can scan it for you if you would like a copy; send me an e-mail via my member page (click on 'Michael F' top left of this post).
     
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    the answer couldn't be better;)
     
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    Think the first one is Lychnis flos-cuculi...
     

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