How does one get an importation permit for plants into United States please

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  1. pensylvaticum

    pensylvaticum Active Member

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    Hello,
    I am a garden designer and I have need to import plants from Europe but I need to obtain a importation permit. Please can anyone help. i have run into brick walls, and would be grateful for any assistance you may be able to provide.
    Thanks.
    pensylvaticum
     
  2. alex66

    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    importation of plant from Europe is difficult because USA not accept plant with soil,only with musk ;before send plant E.U. nursery "wash" the roots and delivery ,but when plant arrived in USA , governament organism check if plant have sanitary problem
    in the site of Esveld nursery more informations www.esveld.nl
     
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    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    The costs involved look as though they are quite prohibitive Alex, and with no guarantees, certainly not worth the risk
     
  5. pensylvaticum

    pensylvaticum Active Member

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    Thank you for your replies and assistance.I do think it is worth the risk if you can get cultivar not available in the United States. If anyone can add please do.
    Much appreciated.
    pensylvaticum
     
  6. Poetry to Burn

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    I imported a few magnolias from Eisenhut in the 90's. The documentation process was not so terrible but the delivery timing was tough to predict. It ended up that the trees spent too much time in the shipping container (here in philadelphia) and when I finally received the plants they soon perished. It was a bit painful but I'd try it again if I really coveted someting unavailable in the US.

    I've been building up a a positive balance of favors with a Japanese friend and hope to investigate obtaining some plants from here.
     
  7. pensylvaticum

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    Dear Poetry,
    I also worry about the plants perishing, and sorry to hear of your lost magnolias. I do agree with your optimism and hope we both have better fortune this time.
    I have also imsisted upon expidited world wide service with a maximum of 2 days shipping time particularly with no soil.
    Thanks for teling me about your experience.I appreciate the references to plant suppliers you included. I wish I could win the lottery so I could look at and buy plants all day. Dream on!!!
    Please keep in touch and let me know how your possible importation goes. I do hope all works out for you.
    Best Wishes,
    pensylvaticum
     
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    Thanks Josylyn, for the information. That really was helpful. i have had so many proplems tracking that down.I had meant to say thanks personally, but I was sidetracked, so i hope you will accept my belated thanks.
     
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    pensylvaticum Active Member

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    Alex,
    I also wanted to thank you about Esveld. I did know about this dutch nursery but for the difficulty with permits. They are one of the very few nurseries in the EU permitted to ship to America. Unfortunatly a really nice french nursery I contacted told me they are not allowed to ship to the Unites States from France.
     
  10. Gomero

    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    For the plants to be accepted in the US, they need to be washed by a certified concern (certified/agreed/accepted by the USDA, this is probably what is meant by 'being allowed to ship to America'). To my knowledge there are few European nurseries that have this certification. All I know is that there is one (or maybe more) certified washers in the Netherlands (Boskoop area) which are used by Dutch growers including Esveld (there are maybe others in another countries that I am not aware of). The cost of the operation is steep:this is what is said at Esveld's website:

    (1 EURO= 1.6 US$)

    In addition they (ESVELD) have a specific statement for shipping to the US:

    If you have a fat checkbook then you can always give to your 'really nice French nursery' the address of the certified Dutch washer and then figure out the logistics.

    In the case of Acer palmatums I suggest to order about 10 of each cultivar to have a chance to, at least, have one viable (advise coming from a knowledgeable grower).

    Gomero
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    Poetry beautiful Japan link ;but is impossible for me understand some word....
     
  12. pensylvaticum

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    Thanks Gomero,
    Your honesty is appreciated, and I certainly had hoped the problems could be overcome. The information is invaluable and I also appreciate your well wishes. I am speechless at the help I have received.
    Thank you so very much.
    Please add anything you wish if it comes to mind, and I will keep you posted as to how this new adventure pans out.
    Kindest Regards,
    pensylvaticum
     
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    The Japanese have a very beautiful sense of nature and elequence in plants, literature, and poetry. I think it is beautiful particularly with the beautiful nature of maples and so many other plants. This is a very apt name indeed. Very impressed.

    pensylvaticum
     
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    Gomero,
    May I ask about Japanese nurseries, are there any which are certified to export to America and the charges incurred?. I also forgot to add you are correct with your summisation about being allowed to export to America and certification. I should have expanded and clarified what was meant.
    Pensylvaticum
     
  15. Poetry to Burn

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    Pensy,

    The point that Gomero made about the time that the USDA takes with the plants is critical. It's what I was getting at when I said that my Mags were in the box too long. Even if you provide expedited shipping I think you cannot manage the amount of time they may be held soiless by the govt.


    Pensy recognize me from ebay?
    Gil
     
  16. pensylvaticum

    pensylvaticum Active Member

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    Hello Gil,
    Yes I do recognise you. How are you?
    About your response well I do not know what I can say. There is little that can be done about Bush's Homeland national socialist party. I am afraid that I can not do any more than correct paperwork, insistance on plant preperation to help with survival. eg. plastic with water laden towels, expediated mailing and hope this is sufficent.
    This seems to be the only thing which can be done in these situations.The only way to add cultivar and species which are not a risk to the environment or native animals which maples are not a risk. This is a calculated risk, and someone has to take a calculated risk.
    I do see all the draw backs, and I do see what people are advising about all the risks, financial, and otherwise. I am very appreciative for the honesty and integrity I have found in my asking about importation and UBC. All have my deepest gratitude.
     
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    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    No, sorry; I am not familiar with the Japanese scene. Others may, though.

    Gomero
     
  18. pensylvaticum

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    Thanks Gomero. I appreciate your answer.
    I wonder if anyone knows of a good nursery or person to get rare and unusual maples in the US?. I am willing to pay a fair and good price for nice trees which could access world market and get cultivar like pung kil.
    I had a thought that it would be possible for nurseries to get access to these cultivars and Wildlife and Fisheries to allow importation with less or possibly no delay? I do not know any nursery willing, and feel awkward to ask such a imposition. If there is a nursery or anyone also interested please let me know. It would be easier for a nursery than for an individual in case of importation of plants?, or a number of people could make it viable for the European or Japanese nursery, and to access plants for people wanting them. I may be very mistaken in this and do not mean any offence to anyone, I was just thinking outloud to see if anyone was thinking as I was or may be interested in the same.
    I have many nurseries but I have yet to find one which has cultivar or species which I am looking for. I have the space and I may need to replace a few because of mother nature and animal damage as well which are rarer and some less unusual. I am looking for minimum of 3 year old trees.
    Thanks.
    pensylvaticum
     
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  19. Gomero

    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    Most nurseries, and also private enthusiasts, resort to importing scions from Europe and Japan to obtain new cultivars. These are much simpler to (legally) bring into the U.S. since no soil is involved.
    If you graft yourself, you can relatively easily obtain what you want. Alternatively you can team with a specialized grower.

    Gomero
     
  20. pensylvaticum

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    Gomero,
    That is a brilliant idea. However grafting is not easy, particularly with some scions being small, thin and fragile as with Koto ito komachi and many desirable cultivars, but it may be the only way to achieve this. I think of your idea with specialist nursery/grower/entusiast who is perhaps more experienced professional grafter. I am only a intermediate grafter. I am a landscape architect/designer who grafts as a enthusiast at this time, but I do hope to be good enough someday to do this professionally.
    Is anyone interested in the forum, or a professional who would be willing to help. I would of course offer costs or provide materials and pay for the scions. Including a stypen or one of the grafts for their expertise.
    Thank you.
     
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