Help identifying native Bunch grass Please

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  1. Sarah Collins

    Sarah Collins New Member

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    We need to re-seed a large disturbed area of native grass in North Glenmore in Kelowna, BC. All of the mixes recommended by local companies do not match at all. Please help us identify the exact one that’s surrounding. Thank you!!

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  2. Daniel Mosquin

    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Why do you think it isn't bluebunch wheatgrass? (which I presume is common in seed mixes there...)
     
  3. Georgia Strait

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    i am not sure what exactly your question is -
    are you asking for ID of photos so you can take names and match in a seed mix?

    for sure your photos show local fabulous and increasingly rare (thru human development causes) grasses

    I have acreage south of your area and it was very disturbed by grazing and also human activity (driving and digging)

    so you have a couple of projects:

    1. prevent weeds coming in cuz they will take over -before you know it --- learn to id and remove safely and dispose appropriately

    2. replace destroyed native plants ---- i would think you will need to buy plants unless you know another place nearby about to be developed - and you have permission ---- rain season is your friend I would think.

    I would be highly surprised if there is a mix you can seed out there and get true "native" or wild ----
    how about contacting this group


    (link to Bluebunch Wheatgrass - Okanagan Xeriscape Association removed as their site has been down for over a week)
     
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    Georgia Strait Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    you would have to doublecheck if this is native - but for sure I have it on acreage down nr Penticton
    Needle and Thread Grass (Hesperostipa comata



    also - going back to invasives - cheat grass - wow does that take over fast ---- http://www.oasiss.ca/pdfs/Cheatgrass_2 May 2013_website.pdf
    and - hounds tongue
    and - the usual knap weed
    and --- toad wort? yellow flower

    be very careful of "wild" mixes because it might be native somewhere but is unwelcome guest here ---

    someone thought starling birds and scotch broom was a good idea at some point!

    and obviously you want to ensure you are firesmart too (interface wildfire) ---- ask your local firehall for websites and brochures - and often there is a volunteer authorized to provide interface wildfire advice with a visit to your acreage.
     
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    Because we tried to seed it with that and it’s not even close :(
     
  6. Georgia Strait

    Georgia Strait Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    it takes a long time to restore and repair an Okanagan landscape in the dry grass/balsamroot flower zones

    we have been working carefully on our acreage for 20 yrs twenty years.

    it looks like you have some nice balsamroot there too ... the dry leaves.
     
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    Daniel - I wonder if the place the original poster bought seed generalized « bunchgrass » and the OP ended up w something like Elijah Blue fescue ... which probably is not a bad thing

    Here’s an interesting PDF fr Royal BC Museum

    Living Landscapes
     
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    E-Flora BC Mobile Photo Gallery

    Here is detail about the beautiful arrowleaf balsamroot that I think is in original poster photos

    (The dried silver grey leaves in typical radial pattern - tech term?? I have attached clip of OP photo below

    (link to Arrow-leaved Balsamroot - Okanagan Xeriscape Association removed as their site has been down for over a week)
     

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  10. Daniel Mosquin

    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Fescue inflorescences often have noticeably long pedicels (the stalks below the flowers connecting them to the main stem). Maybe the original poster can scan in an inflorescence or try to get a perfectly-focused shot (not easy with a phone camera, I know). Or, pick one and put it on a piece of paper and then take a photo.
     

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