Help identify this maple?

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  1. seagonus

    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    Can anyone help me identify this Japanese maple?

    The leaves are deepely cut and lace-like. The green is very brilliant--almost neon-lime-like in summer. The bark is grey-green at the base with the branches being a very light lime green color (like the color on this board). When cut, the wood is very light in color and very hard. In the fall the leaves turn red to a dull orange-brown. The tree was planted around 1976.

    This is the best picture I have.

    Any ideas???
     

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  2. seagonus

    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    I meant to add, that I am not sure if this tree puts out seeds, but the one in the front of the house, which is the same type of tree (only larger) puts out seeds that look like miniature maple seeds. The kind we used to toss in the air as kids and they would twirl to the earth.
     
  3. chimera

    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Maybe look at Acer palmatum 'Seiryu'. Can't tell much from the pic.
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    for me is palmatum subsp.palmatum
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  5. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    A closer view is required.
     
  6. seagonus

    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    If I posted a pic of some dried and flattened leaves (close-up) and a a close up of the stump and stems would that help identify it--or do people need to see this tree in bloom with leaves?

    The attached picture is what the tree looks like from afar in sept/oct.

    The tree itself is very sturdy, I climb the branches to prune it--even one or two extending out horizontally for several feet are sturdy enough to climb to about 5 feet off the ground (I am 180 lbs). The trunk of the larger one is about 8 inches wide or more. Height is about 15 feet, spread is about 15-20.

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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Maybe look at pics in the Maple Forum Gallery this site. Or GOOGLE "A. p. Seiryu". Might be worth a look. Any more pics of leaf may help.
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    Seiryu is possible, I read in the book "Maple for the Garden"descrition is similar please pics again!!
     
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    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    The more I looked at my two trees last year the more I fell in love with them. Really kicking myself for hacking away at it one summer a couple of years ago when I first moved into what is now my place (back then I removed several branches 3 inches in diameter just because the tree was so big and growing over the neighbors 12 foot hedge). Now that side of the tree is really starting to grow higher.

    Hindsight is 20/20 right. . .
     
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    I'll take more pics this afternoon and post later on. I always let the leaves fall and remain on the ground (keeps down weeds) so there will be plenty to choose from.

    You know, the first year I moved in I had several small maple seedlings growing under the big one--and I just yanked them all out without even thinking about it. Now I like the tree so much I wish I had another seedling for another spot in the yard.
     
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    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    Attached is a picture of dried leaves from the maple in question.

    Any ideas???
     

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    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    Here is a picture of the stump.
     

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    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Almost certainly 'Seiryu'. This is a distinctive and common cultivar. Nearly all other laceleaf maples have a weeping habit.
     
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    Here is a picture of some clippings. Notice the green color of the bark.

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    Here is a picture of a mature stem. Is this "greying" color some type of bark disease--or is it just old wood. One tree has more than the other one.
     

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    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    One of the trees has this in the middle. A dry branch I recently cut out. Will this rot to the base of the tree and eventually kill it???
     

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    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    OOps! Didn't see your post Ron. A Seirju, okay, that sounds great. I really do like the upright nature of this type of maple. I have two other kinds a crooked small red one and an upright red with thicker leaves. I may post pics to identify those too.

    Do you think the bark is diseased here (see above)???

    Attached is another pic. The tape measure is set to 3 feet for scale. I really love this tree and have clipped some tips to encourage a thicker look and concentrate more on developing "clouds" of leaves amongst the nice thick bark in behind.
     

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    seagonus Active Member 10 Years

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    I meant to say also. When the leaves are present the tips of the branches extend outwards in fine "wisps" that twist skyward and extend 2-2.5 feet. Is this characteristic of the Seiryu variety???
     
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    Yes, and other cultivars.
     
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    What about the pictures of the bark. . .Does this look like TB or some other disease? The tree itself seems very healthy. Lots of tiny branches in the middle of limbs go dry, but I thought that was to be expected due to the thick canopy on top of the tree and the limited light further in (which i am trying to change by dead-heading some of the long tall limbs.

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