Identification: Help appreciated!

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  1. Richard Dreyfuss Teen Idol

    Richard Dreyfuss Teen Idol Active Member

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    I got these three tropicals from a girl I was dating over the summer. Well, we're not dating anymore, but things have gotten serious between me & the plants. They were outside for most of the summer, but now it's chilly at night, and it's time to take the next step: moving in together. My concern is that I feel like I could better meet their needs if I knew more about them...like what they are. I call them Elvira, Nacho, and Cindy Sue, respectively, but that's just because I don't know what kind of plants they actually are. I would appreciate any help.

    Thanks!
     

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    Junglekeeper Esteemed Contributor 10 Years

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    The third one (Cindy Sue) looks like Dracaena fragrans 'Lemon Lime' (syn. Dracaena deremensis 'Lemon Lime'). Unusally yellow but I attribute that to the lighting.
     
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    #1 looks like Tradescantia spathacea.
     
  4. Richard Dreyfuss Teen Idol

    Richard Dreyfuss Teen Idol Active Member

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    By George, I think the two of you are right! Identifying plants when you know very little about them is such a pain. Any takers for good ole Nacho over there? He/she/it doesn't seem to be doing so well lately, as evidenced by the wilty, discolored leaves by the bottom. I don't know if that's stress from being brought indoors, exposure to chillier weather, or the fact that it weathered torrential downpours a few days in a row last week, or maybe a combination of all of those factors. I don't want to kill the damn thing, as goofy as it looks.
     
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    PS - I meant to say thanks to you two, but kinda forgot when I got all upheavaled with emotion over poor suffering Nacho over here. So thanks!
     
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    In reference to the yellow color on the leaves: The yellow isn't quite as vivid as it appears in the above picture, but is still more of a yellow than a lime green. I would say yellow-green to spring-green, if anyone remembers their Crayola 64 pack. After looking around a bit, the color also seems pretty consistent with that of Dracaena Reflexa... Song of India. Any thoughts?
     
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    poor nacho - can't have him left out in the cold, now can we??

    nacho is some type of crassula, most probably. maybe a senecio. there are tons of crassula and a fairly large amount of senecio. sorry i can't be more specific.

    you've got correct id's for both of the girls, though!
     
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    Sorry Joclyn, you just don't know your Crassulaceae at all. The genus Crassula ALWAYS have the leaves in pairs and "Nacho" clearly has alternate leaves. Its not a Senecio (or Kleinia) either.

    "Nacho" is a Echeveria hybrid, most likely 'Spruce-Oliver'.

    Crassulaceae are sensitive to poor light and will drop leaves and produce etiolated growth. The plant need to at least be in a south facing window to do well.

    The Dracaena is definitely D. fragrans 'Lemon Lime' not D. reflexa 'Song of India'.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Learn to be kinder, or it's back to moderated posts.
     
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    We must bring back that kinder, gentler discussion. Isn't that right, Joclyn? Remember, its always sunny in Philadelphia. :-)
     
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    i said 'probably' a crassula and 'maybe' a senecio. i did not even intimate that i was, with out doubt, correct.

    i know quite a bit about crassula and other species - doesn't mean i get it right every time. i'm still learning (a never-ending process) AND certainly have no problem admitting when i'm incorrect (unlike others).

    in this case i WAS incorrect. i'm just glad someone was able to correctly id nacho!
     
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    Thanks to everyone for their help. Since I now know that Nacho isn't actually a tropical, I'm going to plant him outside in the spring, assuming he survives the winter... which he should, 'cuz he's Rated Zone 4 Hardiness Tuff! Yea!
     
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    It isn't cold hardy either. Who says zone 4? That's completely wrong..... I mean...not correct.

    No Echeveria or any other Mexican Crassulaceae would be cold hardy in Michigan.

    You don't want "Nacho" to turn to mushy guacamole!!
     
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    oh, no! nacho IS a tropical!! i don't know where you got zone 4 for it for hardiness. most aren't cold hardy at all!! more like they do their best in zone 9, maybe 8.

    best take him inside for the winter!
     
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    Ah! That was a mistake on my part. There were so few search results for "Echeveria Spruce-Oliver," or just "Spruce-Oliver," that I got sidetracked by some pictures of Sedum Blue Spruce thinking that it was the same as Nacho....which I see now that it's not, before anyone decides to be hurt-y of my feelings! Ha ha. So inside it is for the ol' Nach.

    PS - Hey, great job guys... all of our discussion of Nacho has put this thread into the number 5 spot on Google for searches for "Echeveria Spruce-Oliver." Way to go! I'm sure Nacho would be proud, if he wasn't busy dropping all of his leaves and photosynthesizing, as it were.
     

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