Grape Seeds

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  1. Giardino

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    Hello I Was Curious I Know It's Fall, But Early Summer I Planted Grape Seeds And What I Noticed Looks Like A Baby Vine Growing. If I Would To Plant Now But Bring In The Soil And Place It Under The Lights In A Warm Location In My House Is There A Chance That It Would Start Growing Now, So Then Come Spring I Would Have A Baby Vine Growing Please Let Me Know.

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    Frank
     
  2. Eric La Fountaine

    Eric La Fountaine Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    There is always a chance. You may want to post a photo of the seedling to see if it is actually a grape, before investing too much on it. Each grape seed is genetically distinct, so you do not know exactly what you will get. Breaders trial thousands of seedlings to get to the few that are chosen for marketing. If you are experimenting, this is fun and educational. If your goal is a productive grape vine with tasty fruit, you may want to purchase a vine of a developed variety.

    I don't know when it germinated or how big it is, but you may just want to leave it outside and when it drops its leaves, mulch it to protect it from the extreme cold. I don't think it would be too happy indoors.
     
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    Hi There Eric This Is A Copy Of The Grapevine That I Told You About. I Have About 12 Growing This Is Just One Of Them. My Question Was If I Plant Now But Let Sit Inside My House Will It Start Growing. Please Advise

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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Doesn't look like a grape vine to me - can anyone else ID?
     
  5. Giardino

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    The Picture I Posted Was Planted By Seed So You Have To Understand That It Is Only An Inch Tall. It Was Planted In Seedling Soil I Was Told That It Was A Baby Seedling Plant.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Yes, I understand it is a seedling. However, it does not look like a grape vine seedling to me.
     
  7. Giardino

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    When I Planted The Seed Itwas A Cabernrt Sauvignon Seed Also In My Backyard I Have A Cabernet Franc Grapevine Which The Leaves Look Identical, If It's Not A Baby Vine Why Is It That They Look All The Same Where I Put The Seeds And Where I Didn't Put The Seeds There Is Only Weeds.
     
  8. Ralph Walton

    Ralph Walton Active Member 10 Years

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    With the exception of the first two leaves (somebody correct me here - they actually have another name for the first pair don't they?) all the leaves on a Cab. Sauvignon should look like this:
    http://www.genres.de/idb/vitis/
    Vitis International Variety Catalogue

    Darn! I forgot you have to go thru the whole search etc process on this url. Pick "Prime Name" in the first selection box, and then type in "cabernet sauvignon". Click on the assession number (1929) and then scroll to "Link to pictures" and click on "leaf, sprout, cluster" and then on "sprout"
    As you can see, the younger leaves are almost identical to the older ones, only smaller.

    I've no doubt you planted seeds where the plants are growing, but I agree with Daniel, they dont look grape to me. On the other hand, grape varieties rarely grow "true" so maybe you are the lucky grower of a new and wonderful variety!...

    Ralph
     
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    Hi there i was wondering which first two leaves were you talking about, also what are the chances of me having that wonderful variety or are you being sarcastic with me and saying that it's impossible for what i'm trying to do.
     
  10. Daniel Mosquin

    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    There is no chance whatsoever that Ralph is being sarcastic. I've never noted him to be anything but one of the most helpful and friendly people on here.

    The first two embryonic leaves that emerge from a seed are the [WIKI]cotyledon[/WIKI] leaves (at least in dicots, like grapes). These two leaves will not resemble succeeding leaves in shape or size generally (see the leaves at the base of the plant in the upper right photo on that link - those are the first two leaves to emerge, and do not resemble later leaves).

    And here's a direct link to the Cab Sauvignon sprout (or seedling) that Ralph was suggesting - this is what your plant should look like if it is indeed a grape seedling: 'Cabernet Sauvignon' sprout
     
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    Ralph Walton Active Member 10 Years

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    Daniel's right, I'm a really fine fellow, almost a saint (now I'm being sarcastic). I'm also an optimist, and while the statistical chances of discovering a "great" new variety are abysmally low, no one can tell in advance so keep growing! There's a lot of people out here growing and breeding and getting a lot of satisfaction from the process; any actual output is sometimes just the icing on the cake so to speak. One constant whether you are a "Doctor" or a duffer is mistakes will be made. Often these very mistakes can be the beginnings of a whole new success. Others are simply more food for the compost heap, and another step in the learning process.

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