grape leaf damage

Discussion in 'Grapes and Grape Vines' started by sesen, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. sesen

    sesen Member

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    Hi all,
    I planted a vineyard last year in Morgan Hill CA. The grapes are cabernet and they are planted in heavy black Clay soil. The soil was not amended. There is a crimson clover cover crop. My squash plants had mosaic virus last year and I am wondering if this may be the cause of the problem my grapes are experiencing. There were numerous cucumber beetles in the vineyard last year. Has anyone heard of bratislava mosaic virus?
    The vines had bud break about 2 weeks ago. The leaves are curling upward and look like they are burned on the edges. It progresses from there to complete deadening of the leaf. This is constant throughout the vineyard. There are 1,000 plants.
    Also, the larger leaves have some discoloration or transparency as you will see in the pictures. There is slight gall of the larger leaves with the discoloration.
    Thanks for your help.
     

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  2. Barbara Lloyd

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    Sesan,
    UC DAVIS is the Home of the Master Gardener program in Calif. and there is probably a branch in San Jose or near-by, just take a good sized sample to them on one of there clinic days or take it to your local County Extension Agent. They should be able to get you the help you need.
    BTW is Irv Perch's "Flying Lady Ranch" still serving those elegant, family style Italian dinners, and showing the old time cars, busses, planes, the original "Flying Lady" stunt plane, and such?
    barb
     
  3. sesen

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    Barb,
    Thanks for your response.
    I will be sure to send a sample to the UC Davis extension. Morgan Hill has a dept. of ag office that sends weekly samples to Sacramento. Last year I used them a couple times. The results came back as "no pathogens". No other information was given.
    I have never used the Davis ext. before. It is good to know they are there as a resource also. Hopefully I can get more info and advice from them before I have to spend more $ for a private lab.
    As for the Flying Lady, they closed in 1994. I think some of the airplanes are housed at a Museum in San Martin.

    Thanks again,
    Sesen
     
  4. northerngrapes

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    I would contact the UC Davis viticulture department or possibly a extension specialist
    dealing in viticulture. It sounds like you have a pretty serious problem that needs to be looked at.

    VIRUS AND VIRUSLIKE DISEASES

    (Also mycoplasmalike organism [MLO])
    Alfalfa mosaic
    Alfalfa mosaic virus
    Arabis mosaic*
    Arabis mosaic virus
    Artichoke Italian latent*
    Artichoke Italian latent virus
    Asteroid mosaic
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Bois noir (black wood disease)*
    MLO
    Bratislava mosaic*
    Bratislava mosaic virus
    Broad bean wilt*
    Broad bean wilt virus
    Corky bark
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Enation
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Fanleaf degeneration (infectious degeneration and decline)
    Grapevine fanleaf virus
    Flavescence dorée*
    MLO
    Fleck (Marbrure)
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Grapevine Bulgarian latent
    Grapevine Bulgarian latent virus
    Grapevine chrome mosaic*
    Grapevine chrome mosaic virus
    Grapevine yellows
    MLO
    Leafroll
    Closterovirus-associated
    Peach rosette mosaic virus decline
    Peach rosette mosaic virus
    Petunia asteroid mosaic*
    Petunia asteroid mosaic virus
    Raspberry ringspot*
    Raspberry ringspot virus
    Rupestris stem pitting
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Shoot necrosis*
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Sowbane mosaic*
    Sowbane mosaic virus
    Strawberry latent ringspot*
    Strawberry latent ringspot virus
    Tobacco mosaic
    Tobacco mosaic virus
    Tobacco necrosis*
    Tobacco necrosis virus
    Tobacco ringspot virus decline
    Tobacco ringspot virus
    Tomato black ring
    Tomato black ring virus
    Tomato ringspot virus decline
    Tomato ringspot virus
    Vein mosaic
    Undetermined, viruslike
    Yellow speckle
    Viroid
    * Indicates the disease is not known in North America

    Hope this helps and good luck.
     
  5. sesen

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    Thank You very much.
    I am taking samples down on Wed. when their specialist is there.
     
  6. CajunLou

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    So did you get an answer? I have the same problem this year with my Inverness table grape and no ag resources withint 300 miles
    CajunLou
     
  7. sesen

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    I did some research of my own. I believe I have a couple of problems.
    first-I have spider mites. I took samples down to the UC Davis ext. and we looked under a microscope. If you are far from any services it might be a good idea to get a microscope. You can get them used on craigslist and universities sometimes sell them-or maybe your local high school should have something powerful enough. I found thrips and saw spider mites. Look up spider mite damage and you will see the similarity in my grapes symptoms. There are 3 types of mites. Pacific, williamette and two spotted. I have a lot of ladybugs which are predators of these mites, I know I have the pacific spider mites. I have also cut back on the dusty conditions by mowing and pruning. Also, spider mites thrive under conditions of water stress. So I increase the watering. My vines are thriving now.

    Secondly, I believe I had some roundup, or glyphosphate damage to the stems. The leaves growing off the wood were distorted and also were growing too many leaves. This is typical of roundup damage. The surrounding new growth-not on the woody section is growing fine. I cut off the wood stem and the vines are doing fine. I will be more careful next year about roundup getting on the vines.

    Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
    Tracy
     
  8. CajunLou

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    Thank you for responding. We are certainly not without water this week! Flooding everywhere you look. But I will be very consistent with water. Also, I have arranged the Boy Scouts to weed thoroughly in and around the arbor on Saturday.
     

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