giant pine need some MAJOR trimming how much is OK?

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  1. mfwmiles

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    hello dear friends, and welcome to summer!!!

    once again i turn to you for a little help. we have this HUGE Pine tree in our front yard that just HAS to go. i would say it is over 20 feet tall and it obstructs our view to the street. i was thinking if i could cut it down to about 5 feet and train it into a circle with a flat top it might look nice in the center of the garden we are planning to put on that side of our front lawn.

    i think the common wisdom is that you can not cut a tree back more than 25% or you can expect it won't live. if that is the case we are going to rip the old girl up and say a prayer for her.

    however, if someone knows how we can save the tree, using some sort of "mud bandage" (i think i read about them somewhere) for the wound in the trunk, and if we can expect to get a nice full "hedge" type effect with her, we would prefer NOT to kill her.

    since i don't know the type of pine she is - i suspect some would be better than others - i am attaching pictures of the tree and the needles.

    thank you for your help as always, and good gardening to you all!!!
     

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  2. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    It's a Douglas-fir Pseudotsuga menziesii.

    Sorry, the pruning that you're describing would kill it. The only pruning I'd recommend for this tree is to cut back the competing leader(s) so as to keep it with just one central trunk; a forked trunk is a recipe for future splitting.
     
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    what can i do with it if i cut it down. is there any "green" solution, like use the needles for mulch or anything like that?
     
  4. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    It's too bad you think you have to chop it off or down. It's probably a bit unusual for your location and although far from huge - Douglas firs grow over 200' tall - it is otherwise a nice-looking specimen tree in that spot.
     
  5. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Won't get anything like that large in NY, though. But I agree with Ron, that's a very nice specimen tree you have there, definitely a 'keeper'.
     
  6. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Let it be a Conifer that gets the don't cut it down
    response. This is the wrong forum to resort to
    mentioning cutting a tree down just because it
    blocks the view. If need be move the street or
    move the tree with risk as Douglas Fir do not
    transplant well at all but don't cut it down.
    That tree belongs to be right where it is and
    a few of us have learned along the way not
    to mess with that. In time you can whack
    off some of the lowermost limbs later on but
    for now leave it alone.

    If it just has to be done, you can trim this
    tree back in thirds. Take one third of the
    total volume you want off the tree now,
    take another third next year and the final
    third the following year. It is not without
    expense and it is not without risk. Find
    a certified arborist that has hands on
    knowledge of Douglas Fir, plan a trip to
    go over to the Brooklyn Botanical Garden
    and see who they recommend for Conifers
    and visit your nearest Cooperative Extension
    Office and ask them who they would contract
    out to prune this tree.

    Jim
     
  7. M. D. Vaden

    M. D. Vaden Active Member 10 Years

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    The simplest answer for the simple part "how much" is to keep reduction limited to not more than 20% removal of foliage. Maybe 25 percent if it's a vigorous youthful tree.
     
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    Olafhenny Active Member 10 Years

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    Can't you just slice of a few branches off at the eye to street level? Surely the trunk itself does not block much of the view?

    Besides, what is so fascinating about your 'street view', that you are prepared to murder such a nice tree for it?
     
  9. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Yeah, most questions about street views on this forum are about how to block them! ;-)
     

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