"Deshojo-type" ID

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  1. AlainK

    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Hello,

    A friend of mine did some maintenance pruning on a "forest" of maple he had brought to our bonsai club meeting today. These trees are in fact a "raft", the branches grew on one side, so he put it horizontally in a pot, removed the bark to the cambium on the bottom part of the trunk and new roots formed. I remember referring to this technique in a recent post.

    So far, nothing much to say, except that the foliage was very unusual for a bonsai. There are many cultivars or even species that are suitable for bonsai, but it was the first time I had seen one like that. So I'll try to root some cuttings ;-)

    He told me that the new leaves were as bright a red as Deshojo's, and you can see on the photo that the new twigs are dark red. The summer colour is a dark green, with hints of burgundy on some leaves. These are more deeply divided than in Deshojo, and also a bit "twisted". The internodes are quite short, and I think that even if it may be the result of a good cultivation to some extent (for a bonsai, you don't want a small tree with branches that have long internodes, this goes without saying) it must be a feature of the original tree.

    Any hints?

    [EDIT]

    I remembered that "red" in Japanese is "beni", so I looked up the cultivars starting 'beni' in Vertrees & Gregory, and it might well be 'beni komachi'.

    What do you think?...
     

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  2. Houzi

    Houzi Active Member 10 Years

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    First thought of Beni Komachi but guess you've got that one.Here the market has been flooded with this cultivar on it's own roots,and I know grafting from them does space out the internodes.I had one of these and it was conjested but also vigorous as I fed it well.Wether on it's own roots and bonzai'd could do this I don't know but as you say that one is very compact...dunno.
     
  3. AlainK

    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Thanks for your input: if you say that there are lots of them available in the UK, and that they're on their own roots, then my cuttings might take. Good news ;-)
     
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    I thought it looked like Beni komachi also, not just the leaves but also the twigs and bark etc.
     
  5. AlainK

    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Thanks a lot, it's much better to have your opinion than to simply rely on a photo from a book ;-)
     

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