Did anyone try to distinguish between Hound's Tongue species, Cynoglossum officinale and Cynoglossum occidentale? Two photographers at CalPhotos Cynoglossum occidentale page refer to completely different specimen and I am not sure who of them is correct. It seems to me that Ron Wolf's photos do not belong to that page. http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?where-taxon=Cynoglossum+occidentale
you are correct. they are not the same plant. Myosotis scorpioides - has a yellow flower center. Cynoglossum occidentale has a white center. monitor goofed me up . Ron Wolf's photos are correct.
The vast majority of images in a Google search of officinale suggests the flower is red and look very much like these photos by Steve Matson.
Thanks, Susan, many of Google returns, however, may not belong to the asked species. I always have to go to the original page to make sure that this picture does not belong to some other species described at the same page. In this case, description of C.occidentale is frequently occurs together with C.officinale. Unfortunately, all descriptions of C.occidentale are insufficient to figure out how does it look. The only rigorous feature is the round flattened seed with prickles, which however is not in the picture. And the seed configuration is the only key feature that distinguishes these two species in the "Pacific States" key (disregarding biennial/perennial which is difficult to use).
after inserting Cynoglossum and clicking "search" on the main page, be sure to click on the Tamu Gallery link to get to a set of images.
Here is one more "version" of Cynoglossum occidentale: http://www.wildflower.org/gallery/result.php?id_image=3280 My impression is that no one know what is this species. The only solution is to label the plant in question and look at its fruits later which in case of Cynoglossum are very characteristic.
Another site that seems to have it wrong! Good luck. It's similarity to Myosotis scorpioides is striking.
