Cupressus nootkatensis 'Green Arrow'

The Harper Conifer Collection at Hidden Lake Gardens in Tipton, MI, August 2005.

 

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Species now Cupressus nootkatensis, syn. Callitropsis nootkatensis, Xanthocyparis nootkatensis.

 

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Is this one thinner than Van den Akker? Or how are the two distinguished if other than skinniness?

 

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'Green Arrow' is glaucous, not familiar with 'Van den Akker' though.

 

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I've read that 'Van Den Akker' is the narrowest of all (1 foot wide no matter how tall).

Dax

 

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'Stricta' seems to be about the narrowest seen available here. Wonder if it may be the same cultivar. Possibly two names because of trademark or patent rules , or just marketability ?

 

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I knew this was going to come up. 'Stricta' I saw in an ACS "bulletin" photo and it was more narrow. I should've said something. It's so narrow it looks like a flagpole.

My apologies,

Dax

 

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They are separate cultivars then, thanks for the clarification.

 

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Plants I've seen called 'Van Den Akker' here (Seattle area), where I have the impression the selection was made are not the narrowest I have seen.

If 'Stricta' was named after 1959 it needs a new name, being Latin.

 

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Believe it may also be referred to as 'Strict Weeping' , grown by Iseli Nursery.

 

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Well thanks for all that. I've seen only Van den Akker in the flesh, and it was lovely close-up, and I don't normally like this plant all that much... but that encounter changed that! I'll see which of these I come across first..

 

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One thing seems certain - there are many more named varieties available here on the west coast than anywhere else. Some of the narrowest of these seem to me to only obtain a substantial presence in the garden with age. But they do offer something that many conifers do not - a tall vertical accent that doesn't take up a lot of space.
My personal favorite, though not so narrow, is 'Glauca Pendula'.

 

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Possibly 'Strict Weeping' was coined to replace 'Stricta', on account of the 1959 rule.

 

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How fast do these grow? I'm looking at something that would grow tall fast but stay slender to put at my back fence so that I don't have my backyard exposed to a newly built subdivision that has two story houses.

 

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More than a foot a year in the PNW. 1 foot here.

Dax

 

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In Conifers for Gardens by Richard L. Bitner, he shows Strict Weeping (or weeper, he says) as having quite a broad base. Green Arrow is strictly narrow but can form a skirt on the ground. And Van Den Akker has no apparent breadth on the ground in his photo at all. Stricta is not mentioned.

 

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Cultivariance probably plays a role with these same as other vegetatively propagated conifer selections, with where the cuttings or scions were taken from on the stock plants sometimes producing a persisting aberrant habit. Faux cultivars of other species such as Abies prostrata 'Glauca Prostrata' and Sequoia sempervirens 'Prostrata' are actually cultivariants rather than legitimate distinct cultivars. The former consists of rooted or grafted sidebranches of A. procera 'Glauca' that have failed to generate leaders and grown into tree shapes. One large old specimen in Pt Defiance Park, Tacoma, WA never did grow into a tree shape. S. sempervirens 'Prostrata', on the other hand frequently sends up leaders starting at a small size to become the tree-form cultivar 'Cantab' (unless these are kept pruned out) that it actually belongs to.

 

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Agree Ron.

D.

 

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The photo at the beginning of the thread reminds me of a metal sculpture at the IBM complex in San Jose, CA. Maybe that would a good specimen to plant in my memory garden in memory of my father.

I really like Green Arrow. I'm glad for this website for showing all of us how many conifers there are in the world and how to take care of them as sometimes the Garden Nursery workers don't know enough.

 

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You can get a real nice one from Iseli Nursery I'm sure and Iseli will cater to local nurseries so find one that orders from them for bringing in a larger specimen, if needed.

Isn't conifer gardening just wonderful Karalyn??

Dax

 

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And we at UBCBG are truly thankful to the forums contributers who have added so many wonderful images and provided such valuable commentary on the plants. Special appreciation to conifers for providing so many of the images and thanks to dcsteg, Michael F. and ToddTheLorax. I am sure the Conifer Photo Gallery will prove to be a valuable online resource for gardeners, conifer enthusiasts and growers...and Garden Nursery workers who want to know enough to serve their customers well.

 

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Today I was told stock plants of 'Green Arrow' at Buchholz nursery also show the extra bluishness that I've seen in small plants offered under the name at outlets here. 'Van Den Akker' is a scarecrow habit type, not particularly narrow at the base, that was sold originally as 'Pendula'. See my addition to the thread on that cultivar.

 

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Thank you!

 

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Yes, I'm just starting to begin with conifers. I just don't know where to put them in my yard!
I did just purchase a Weeping Alaskan cypress at home depot at a super price. $25.00 for a one in a large pot. Right now can't tell you the size but I know enough about gardening to know that this is an excellent price. I also got a Corkscrew Filbert super size as well. What I was really wanting to buy was a blue weeping or serpentine blue larch. Sorry, I can't think of the proper name.

 

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Now I'm getting confused. Is a Weeping Alaskan Cypress the same as a 'Green Arrow'?