climbing rose & Salix matsudana curly willow

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  1. Candy McKivett

    Candy McKivett New Member

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    can these be planted together?
     
  2. Georgia Strait

    Georgia Strait Active Member

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    i am not a rose expert

    however I have experience with curly willow

    I have a few thoughts

    think twice.

    do you have deer?

    are you in shade in sooke?

    do you have limited water in summer (willow like water)

    where is your septic system and fresh water pipes in to your property (your house)

    be very careful - that willow will be a possible expensive repair on your property

    also - curly willow is short lived (as are many poplar willow that grow so fast)
    so the rose can live 40 years - and the willow is falling apart literally by 40 --- so it is not a good combo in my opinion

    all this said - I love curly willow - I like to use it in casual english style floral arrangements etc

    so I have a huge plastic planter full of rain water - and i grow branches of willow and use for flower arrange etc

    it would likely help the rose people on this forum if you name the one you are consideringg

    there was a recent thread about a good climbing rose for Maple Ridge BC I think. You can find it on this site.
     
  3. Candy McKivett

    Candy McKivett New Member

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    Thanks for replying! My responses inline below

    do you have deer? --- Of course! Yard is getting deer fenced this spring

    are you in shade in sooke? --- Only partial, yard has afternoon sun

    do you have limited water in summer (willow like water) --- Area is next to veggie garden so gets watered and the park that borders the yard on that side has a the small swamp.

    where is your septic system and fresh water pipes in to your property (your house) --- On sewer, not near the garden, garden is in the back, no pipes

    be very careful - that willow will be a possible expensive repair on your property --- nothing is near where I want to put them

    also - curly willow is short lived (as are many poplar willow that grow so fast)
    so the rose can live 40 years - and the willow is falling apart literally by 40 -- so it is not a good combo in my opinion –-
    I bought the willow last year, it has been in a pot on my deck, but I need to put it in the ground. I doubt I’ll live another 40 years

    all this said - I love curly willow - I like to use it in casual english style floral arrangements etc –- me too!

    so I have a huge plastic planter full of rain water - and i grow branches of willow and use for flower arrange etc –- sounds lovely

    it would likely help the rose people on this forum if you name the one you are considering –- I have ordered Joseph’s coat from Dinters, just called a climber, no other name listed. I am wondering if they could be planted close enough together so the rose could climb the willow.
     
  4. Georgia Strait

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    Yes Dinters plant nursery is a long time institution

    How about you ask Dinters

    Does one have to prune climbing rose to tidy it up? I ask cuz a full curly willow is a mass of twiggy branches and I can imagine it’d be difficult to detangle a solid thorny rose cane.

    I certainly like having a clematis (one that’s an old reliable name) climb through some of my smaller deciduous trees (eg acer circinatum, a native maple)

    That said - clematis like consistent forest soil that’s not too wet or too dry ... and their roots in shade undisturbed
     

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