Identification: carnivorous plant

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  1. jaistar12

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    Pls i need the Latin name for this particular plant also how hard is it to propagate one of these?
     

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    chimera Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Some kind of Sarracenia .
     
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    Hard to tell exactly. Post a pic when the pitchers are fully open. It is a Sarracenia, but what species I can't be sure. They are very easy to propogate. Either division like any other perrenial, or by seed. I would wait until it's bigger before dividing it, though. Have you had it long?
     
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    so do you think the lids for my plant has not developed yet or will stay like this through ? i think it may be a hybrid as it looks similar to S.rubra .. haven't had it for that long got it from a nursery however with no label stating name only price !
     
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    It should open to have a hollow 'tube', which is the pitcher. It will also have a lid. To me, it looks like a S. leucophylla or similar hybrid. It shouldn't take long. You also have a flower bud there, so that should be nice too.
     
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    Tom, I'm sorry but I just don't see what you're seeing. We should just wait for some updated pictures from jaistar12 (I hope).
     
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    Hi Kevin, no extra pics necessary from Jaistar. :)
    If you look again at Jaistar's original photos, you can clearly see that the traps are domed with light-transmitting white patches, not hinged with a lid like Sarracenia leucophylla. S. minor & S. psittacina are the only ones that have this (and S. psittacina does look markedly different on the whole).
    Here is an excellent pic of S. leucophylla that shows both mature & immature traps. At first glance it might appear similar to Jaistar's photo's but here in the leucophylla pic you can see that as the trap lid matures and relaxes down to a horizontal position, it flattens and becomes a lid; whereas Jaistar's traps have nice round domes even though they have come down into their horizontal position. Also look at the markings on the traps of both species. In these many excellent close-ups of S. minor at the Botany Society of America, you can see the same prominent translucent white spots that Jaistar's plant has. Also notice that S. minor has much less prominent veining than S. leucophylla, even on immature traps.
    Take a minute to really look & compare this google page of many, many Sarracenia minor pics to both Jaistar's pics and to others of S. leucophylla.
    There is no question that Jaistar's plant is, at a minimum, mostly Sarracenia minor, and very possibly the pure species.
     
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    Every day I try and learn something new from this wonderful site. Many thanks Tom for your extremely clear explanation. I feel pretty confident now, that in the future I will be able to id Sarracenia minor.
     
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    Very thorough explanation Tom. Thanks.

    jaistar12 - How is your plant doing? If you don't mind, when the flower opens, could you post a pic of the whole pitchers and the flower? Thanks.

    Btw, I can't seem to be able to send you a PM or an e-mail.
     
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    Hay guys thanks for all the feedback i have been doing a lot of research on S.minor it looks pretty close match to the one that I have got although there are a few different species of S.minor also ... another question I have is that i'm growing my plant mostly indoors so will the pitchers provide their own fluids? Or should i tip some water down it's trap?

    I will surely post more pics of the flower as it blooms...
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    No, do not add water to the pitchers. The lid is there to prevent rainwater diluting the fluid at the bottom of the tube.To much fluid in a tube would rot the tiny downward hairs that prevent the trapped insects from escaping.

    The fluid becomes full of bacteria who's digestive enzymes help to break down the insects.This article is rather interesting.

    http://www.sarracenia.com/faq/faq5532.html

    In Sarraccenia purpurea, the fluid is acid, which if created by the formic acid in the ants that it traps.

    http://www.botany.org/Carnivorous_Plants/Sarracenia.php

    Insectiverous plants are amazing and really interesting
     
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    Just some tips on culture - make sure you use only as pure water as possible for your plant, and keep it as wet as possible. I prefer to keep mine sitting in a tray of water, so, always wet. They like high light, so indoors, a south or west window is ideal. Also, NEVER fertilize. I guess it's spring where you are, so I would assume it is warm enough (ie above freezing) to keep the plant outside. If this is possible, it will feed itself - you won't believe how many bugs get trapped in those pitchers! Yes, please, update us with photos of your plant! With S. minor, it is difficult to look into the pitchers to see what in in there, but you'll hear some buzzing from the flies or wasps that are trying to escape! Sometimes they even eat their way out the side of the pitcher!
     
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    Hay here is the update on those pitcher plants was amazing to see the flower bloom , so i thought i would wait until it is full bloomed till i take the shots .. pithers are fully formed too ! Enjoy
     

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    Very nice! Thanks. Now that the pitchers are open, I'm thinking that what you have is S. x rehderi (S. minor x rubra). Interesting that the pitchers are all-green, though. Curious. Perhaps you got ones that don't have the pigment, to produce all-green pitchers. I'm intrigued to find out what you have. Nice flower!
     

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