Thanks a bunch LariAnn. I've been zipping mail back and forth to Julius Boos, Alistair Hay and Pete Boyce all morning on this. It appears from a note received today from Alistair many of the plants we have accepted as "species" are truly variations of Alocasia longiloba. There is a great deal of work that needs to be done on this by a qualified scientist but Alistair explained single plants have been observed in large groups of "species" plants that look nothing like the surrounding parents but upon close examination prove to be one and the same, ie natural variation. i was planning on sending you a note today asking if you had tried to duplicate the original crosses as described by both AndrÃ© and Salvadore Mauro? It would appear to me you are uniquely qualified to put some resolution on this "mystery" so it can finally be put to bed. By the way, your opinion is worth a great deal more than 2 cents!