Acer x conspicuum 'Red Flamingo'

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  1. Acerholic

    Acerholic Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator VCBF Cherry Scout Maple Society

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    This is my first posting of my Acer x conspicuum 'Red Flamingo ' I wanted to show the leaf colours now and then I will follow up throughout the year with the bark as it develops the lovey red and white stripes it is known for.
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    25th June 2021 and a quick follow up on how the leaves look on my x conspicuum 'Red Flamingo'.
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    What is the difference between "conspicuum red flamingo" and "conspicuum phoenix"? they look similar to me ...
     
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    Hi Romain, tbh I see very little, if any difference between the two.

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    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    I've been meaning to reply to this thread, and ttook some pics during the year, to contribute. First, during the month of June, leaves and bark:

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    The end of October:

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    As chance would have it, I took a couple of picture of Acer x conspicuum 'Silver Cardinal'. So please note, these next 3 are 'Silver Cardinal' and not 'Red Flamingo':

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    These are the two that are usually compared, not 'Phoenix', which has very pink bark and unvariegated leaves. While 'Silver Cardinal' and 'Red Flamingo' are quite similar, the latter is much more flagrantly (some say garishly) red in the new foliage, where the former has mottled pink in various shades, but is never garish. The bark also differs in that 'Silver Cardinal' has a lovely blue tint on mature bark, which we don't see on 'Red Flamingo'

    I believe 'Red Flamingo' should be called Acer rubescens 'Red Flamingo', it was sold to me under this etiquette, and most botanists seemed to be in agreement that this is correct. A. x conspicuum refers to a specific garden hybrid of A. davidii x A. pensylvanicum, but because it's a sharper marketing name there seems to be a tendency for nurserypeople to name any rubescens- or variegated - seedling from Section Macrantha this way, which I find unfortunate.

    An anecdote told to me by de Jong: Oterdoom and van Gelderen wanted to group these garden hybrids 'Silver Cardinal', 'Elephant's Ear', 'Silver Vein' and Phoenix' under Acer x conspicuum. De Jong objected, and wouldn't budge until a night of hard drinking and singing in a favorite bar convinced him. And so Acer x consipicuum was born, to everyone's lasting confusion.

    I can't find a shot of 'Phoenix' quickly, but there are many around. It has very large, broad green leaves, a little crinkled, and lovely pink bark. It looks nothing like the other Acer x conspicuum. However, like the others, it is very prone to pseudomonas, and the often disfigure the lovely pink striped bark.
     
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    I was walking by the tree, so I snapped a couple of pics of the bark of A. x conspicuum 'Phoenix'. Easier than finding pictures, sadly! At twilight but you can still see the pink bark quite clearly. Again, this is 'Phoenix' not 'Red Flamingo'.

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    thank you Emery for all this information! my nurseryman can have me "red flamingo" "phoenix" and "elephant ear" which one do you recommend?
     
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    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    The only reason to get 'Elephant's Ear' is for the rarity, if you're a collector. It needs practically perfect conditions to show well consistently. and even its selectioner isn't particularly fond of it. The leaves are big sometimes -- but big for a snakebark maple, not big for other plants, nor as big as some other maples -- and are often chlorotic. The bark doesn't last as well as the other varieties, becoming a bit rough so that the striping is difficult to see.

    So you might want to rule this one out.

    For the other two, their very different. 'Phoenix' is nore difficult to grow, and also more upright. It drops leaf very early in the fall, compared to 'Red Flamingo' which is late. 'Phoenix' is quite drought intolerant. And you don't want to see what it does if you let it get stressed.

    I guess the main question is: summer variegated interest, or winter stem interest? Those are the main uses of these two.
     
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    Here is mine just starting to leaf out on the 29th March 2022.
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    11th May 2022 and the leaves are fully open and showing why this maple is so interesting. The colours are really wonderful.
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    14th June 2022 and into Summer now, but the colours are still vibrant including the new branches and petioles.
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