Acer discolor

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  1. alex66

    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    no problem !:) if you are near Rome contact me !!
     
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    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    Here are some additional pics from my acer discolor, bought 8 years ago as a seedling from Florama who guaranteed 'purity' of seeds (which in general they do since they have a good network for the seeds). It is now more than 5 m tall though not very dense. As you can see there is a great deal of variability in the leaves.

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    Merci, thank you for the photos.
     
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    beautiful pics thanks Gomero :) the evident different is about bark,my discolor is by graft ,and not have for the moment the bark like one discolor born by seeds
     
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    New leaves on the A. discolor I got from Florama, "Curator of biodiversity" (already mentioned in this forum).

    The new leaves have pinkish-orange hues that make this Acer very particular. Like all their plants, these are from seeds.

    I'll try to air-layer one of them, my favourite method for trees that can thrive on their own roots (like A. p. 'Orange Dream', 'Phoenix', etc.). Since I'm into bonsai, this is the best way to get evenly, star-shaped spreading roots. If anyone is interested, I'll post photos of the different stages in the process, and let you know if it was successful or not, oeuf corse as Napoleon would say (I'm in a jocular mood, so happy to find back my trees with no damage after a week away in sunny England ;-)
     

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    AlainK Generous Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    This one gets the sun from 10 to 13, and again in the evening. The colours are not as spectacular as in previous years. The two other ones are in more shaded places ans still green.

    October 2015 :

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    Today :

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    @AlainK I remember seeing this one on the MS website. I expect it was yours. I don't know why there are not more of the Chinese Acer's around. Perhaps it's just that old thing called marketing!!!!!
    Looking lovely in your garden.
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    after 12 years my discolor is 8 meter high ! more than the near Quercus rubra
     
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    @alex66 good afternoon Alex, Wow, would love to see a photo of that? Or are you waiting for the Autumn colours before posting?
     
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    So, the jury seems to have spoken as to the status of most of the "Acer discolor" in this thread. They all come from a single seed source, which it turns out was collected by Jacques Urban of France. I have 4 plants in the ground from (directly or indirectly) this source, and I know that Alain's plants -- he pointed me at the source, back when! -- and others (for example at Itururran Botanical Garden) come from the same place.

    What seems to be in general agreement now, is that these are not Acer discolor. What are they? Well, that's still uncertain. The best ID we have is from Dan Crowley, who has called them "A. aff paxii". Perhaps they're a hybrid?

    Last year I received a plant from a mutual friend in Italy (Phil) who grew seed from @alex66 's grafted plant, origin Esveld. This appeared from the beginning to be a different plant, though I don't know the source of it. As you can see here, the seedling, now in it's second year, is very different from the plants from Urban. While those show some simple leaves on old wood (perhaps rarely) on this plant _all_ the leaves from the first flush are simple. Only the second flush is lobed, and less so than the Urban plants.

    The status of A. discolor is disputed. IIRC it is sunk into synonymy in FOC. It is unlisted in the latest Maple Society work, which underlines it's disputed status. Hopefully the status will be further clarified in the next years.
     

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    AlainK Generous Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    Oh my !

    Everything seem to crumble around me, there are no certainties any longer, only doubts.

    Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
    To the last syllable of recorded time;
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
    And then is heard no more. It is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

    ;0)
     
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    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    I recently re-read Faulkner's "The Sound and the Fury", and I confessed had less patience for it than I did as a younger fellow. A masterpiece of course, through perhaps not on par with the source of the quote.

    I'd call you Hamlet willingly, had you but the proper hat for it! :) (A reference to a rather awful production where he was mostly distinguished by, er, his top).
     
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    AlainK Generous Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    I read it yeeears ago : I can't remember anything about it, not even the basic plot.

    Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and... Tomorrow morning : wikipedia and browsing the bookshelves. ;0)

    And, er... I much prefer Macbeth than Hamlet.

    A modern version of this solliloquy I particularly like :

     
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    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    That Patrick Stewart Macbeth was so good, one of the best I've ever seen. The violence of it was very intimate. There was a marvelous Julius Caesar done with an African play, starring Paterson Joseph, released in the same series. We agree about Hamlet I think!
     
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    @AlainK has no proper hat. He swallowed it after @Mani rooted that maple.
     
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    @kbguess LOL you followed that! :DDDDD I need to relax :D
     
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    New pics of mine discolor
     

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    @alex66 a beutiful tree in a beautiful position Alex.
     
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    Very different from mine. I had a look at pictures on the web and yours looks like Acer oblongum :

    Acer discolor

    Acer oblongum
     
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    Have to agree with Alain @AlainK Acer oblongum, I was looking at the lovley setting more than the leaves.
     
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    Very nice Alex! The seedling seems true to your plant.

    The differences in the literature between discolor and oblongum have always been very slight. To the point the now FOC considers A. discolor a synonym of A. oblongum. The great differences with oblongum have long been one of the problematic features when considering our plants to discolor: they simply don't match the description.
     
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    One of mine is putting on its Autumn colours :

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    The same tree from different points of view, 10:00 AM :

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    Against the morning light - again !

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    Another, much smaller one :

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