Identification: 1 plant to Identify "PLEASE HELP"

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  1. Blake09

    Blake09 Active Member

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    Please!!!!,..........help me Identify this succluent, I got it as a gift four "4" yers ago and it hasent grown much, I have no clue what this is except a succlent. When I got it it had hotglued purple flowers "then They wilted and dided so I removed it" It hasent eaver crinkled up or aney of that I have just keep on sustaining it and it keeps on slowley growing it, I have repotted it twice, let the soil dry out for two weeks some times more then water it, it gets indirct sunlight throught the day except when the sun sets. I will take more pictures if youal want me to. :}
     

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    Don't know the id, but it's a cactus. not a succulent.
     
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    Actually, all cacti are succulents aren't they?
     
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    Yep, virtually all cacti are succulents, but many succulents are not cacti. There are differences. Cacti are succulents with spines.
     
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    You have a lovely Echinocerous , or Lobivia commonly known as a Hedgehog cactus, they have stunning trumpet shaped and colourful flowers! Keep it in your sunniest window, and water only occasionally, however do keep it out of direct sun if out of doors...
     
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    Thank you all soo much!! :}
     
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    More specifically, and botanically speaking.... only cacti have areoles, which are pores where spines and their flowers occur. And more importantly, all spiny succulents are NOT all cacti.

    Also, cacti flowers only originate from these areoles and the flowers are usually funnel shaped with a percussion opening...think trombone!
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi,
    it's an ECHINOCACTUS GRUSONII, and needs much more light...
     
  9. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Errr, no! Most cacti are spiny, and almost all cacti are succulent. So "all spiny succulents" includes many/most cacti. I think you meant to say "Not all spiny succulents are cacti" (i.e., there are some spiny succulents that are not cacti ;-)
     
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    No, the confusion is that not all spiny succulents are cacti. And here is the identifying feature, explained further... If the spines or sharp hairs are formed in clusters separated by rows of fleshy areas, then they are cacti. If one of these characteristics is missing, then you have a succulent plant but definitely not a cactus. And as further indicated by the botany...areoles from my above post. Where the areoles are, usually on raised ridges as in saguaros and barrel cacti.
     
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    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Yeah, but the statement I queried stated that spiny succulents are never cacti. Which isn't true!
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Summary: if it's in the Cactaceae family, then it is a cactus, if it's in a different family (Euphorbiaceae, Didiereaceae, etc.), then not a cactus... ;)
     
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    Can I post mine??? Here's a Golden Barrel Cactus (Echinocactus grusonii) that I bought a few yrs ago growing happily in 4" pot.
     

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    Cool has it eaver bloomed for you?, One more plant to id. aneybody know?

    I think this is a more common cactus "sorry that it is spelt rong"
     

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    Nope, the barrel cactus has not bloomed as of yet for me:(

    I see the cactus you have for sale all over.

    They call them ''moon cactus." There are two different cactus grafted together. The top cactus lacks chlorophyll which makes food, so it would eventually die without grafting it to one that does have chlorophyll. The top has been listed as Gymnocalycium mihanovichii, the bottom, Hylocereus, but the bottom could be something else too I think.
     
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    Echinocactus grusonii must be very large before they bloom. Yes, the bottom part (grafting stock) is a Hylocereus. Rots easily, but is cheap and easy to graft on. It is very common in mass-produced grafts, but is almost never seen in grafts from more "serious" cactus growers.
     
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    Niiiice Bluewing.....what's its diammeter (roughly!) looks massive to me!
     
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    Hey Jen,

    It's not as big as it appears. If you look real close at the ''saucer" under the pot, it's a plastic re-usable top to a yogurt container, lol. The plant is only growing in 4" pot:)
    This cactus is a replacement for another barrel cactus that died on me a couple of yrs ago. That one was growing in 6" pot:(
     
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    Aww sorry about your other one:( What do you think happened to it?
     
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    Over-watered:(
     

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