What variety of maple is it?

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  1. GPA

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    What variety of maple is it?
     

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    I'm thinking Acer palmatum 'Lileeanne's Jewel'.
     
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    The seller has sold it to me as the Mikazuki variety.
     
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    I'm using Google Translate so if you don't understand me it's Google's fault.
     
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    I don't think so G.
     
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    It does not look like 'Mikazuki'.

    Other possibilities in addition to 'Lileeanne’s Jewel' (Extravaganza) include 'Gwen's Rose Delight' (Shirazz) or 'Geisha Gone Wild'.
     
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    Totally agree M.
     
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    Yo tampoco lo creo.
    Las hojas nuevas tienen algo así como arce Mikazuki.
    They have that green central vein.
     

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    No not Mikazuki G. I'm still of the opinion Lileeanes Jewel or what @maf suggested.
     
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    The problem is :

    1/ your tree is very young, it needs to adapt to your climate, the soil you cultivate it, etc.

    2/ it looks like it has suffered from drought, which is not surprising considering where you live

    Acer palmatum cultivars can show very different aspects depending on the climate, the soil, the weather when they bud out or when they develop, etc.

    If you look for info or pictures, different sites will show you different pictures :

    Erables japonais acer palmatum mikazuki de Maillot-Erable - La boutique MAILLOT-ERABLE

    https://www.lafeuillade.com/"acer-palmatum-mikazuki"

    Acer palmatum 'Mikazuki' Japanese Maple

    Etc.

    It must be a 'Mikazuki'.
     
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    Thanks
    Does that mean it can be a Mikazuki?
     
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    Thanks, Acerholic and Maf
     
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    "Does that mean it can be a Mikazuki?"

    I think so, yes, definitely.

    In a warm, arid area (is Leon warm and arid ?)(*), the green of the leaves could be reduced to their simplest element.

    If your tree was sold as 'Mikazuki', why suspect the seller was dishonest ?...

    As as said many times the conditions in which a tree is cultivated can make a difference. Trying to find another name to a 'Mikazuki' in these conditions is, I think, totally pointless. Talking about "how to make it look like it's shown on nursery websites" is probably more relevant. Cultivation. That's the word.

    (*) I checked it, and it seems quite differenet from what I thought :

    À León, les étés sont court, chaud, sec et dégagé dans l'ensemble et les hivers sont très froid et partiellement nuageux. Au cours de l'année, la température varie généralement de 0 °C à 27 °C et est rarement inférieure à -4 °C ou supérieure à 32 °C
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    Rainbow , look at my avatar that's a mikazuki
     
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    Hi @AlainK, I am seeing lots of pink streak and edge type variegation in @GPA 's maple. This is not what I would expect from Mikazuki which is I believe a reticulated type. While I agree it is best to observe the tree over time and allow it to grow into what it will be, I don't see how this can be 'Mikazuki'. Trees get accidentally mislabelled all the time, it does not mean the seller was deliberately dishonest.
     
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    My thought
     
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    If it is, it's very different from mine :

    acerp-rainbow01_210605a.jpg acerp-rainbow01_210605b.jpg acerp-rainbow01_210605c.jpg
     
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    So far, it's thriving here. Once again, I suppose that the health of a tree depends on several conditions, the weather (and the sun exposure) and the soil being the most important I think.

    But I haven't had it for very long : I bought it in June 2018. I visited a nursery specialized in maples, they were quite expensive, but this one was affordable and since it was the first time I'd seen one, I bought it. ;-)

    I kept it in mostly shade, and my slip-potting it in a rather acidic soil (pozzolan, small pine chips and a bit of compost) helped it I think.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that some rootstock are better than others depending on what one want to graft, but I have no knowledge of this at all. But I suppose that grafting a cultivar that belongs more to the amoenum family will be stronger on an amoenum rootstock and palmatum cv.s will fare better on a palmatum rootstock, just like a red one will look better when grafted on a seedling from a red variety.

    My 2€cents...
     
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    that was a discussion on one of the old threads i read a while ago. it was very interesting reading about how different rootstock could possibly change the appearance, growth habit, etc of a cultivar.
     
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    So is the supposed Mikaziki.
    It looks a lot like Lileeanne's Jewel maple.
    It receives very little sun.
     

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  23. LoverOfMaples

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    I don't think it's 'Mikazuki'
     
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    Correct.
    I also don't think it's Mikazuki, although the seller keeps saying it is.

    How resistant is Lileeanne's Jewel maple to heat?
     
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  25. LoverOfMaples

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    But like Alain said.

    [QUOTE="AlainK, post: 414627, member: 26957"
    As said many times the conditions in which a tree is cultivated can make a difference.[/QUOTE]

    @GPA I'm not sure how resistant it is to heat.
     
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