Epipactis helleborine

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  1. Margot

    Margot Renowned Contributor 10 Years

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    Epipactis showed up from nowhere in my garden a few years ago. There was only one little plant at first and I let it go hoping it might be Epipactis gigantea, a rare native plant in my area. Well, now I know better and I read that it is considered invasive in many areas.

    I'd be interested in hearing any experiences or comments other gardeners on this Forum might share.
     

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    Interesting - and way more interesting than chores in a rainy day!

    So both names you say above are introduced to BC

    Although for some reason - the gigantica version has a BC management plan to protect it - i don’t know enough about how plant scientists figure this out - again it would also interesting to know more about that official process for flora and fauna - link below
    EIRS Application - Timeout Page

    Then this history from Cambridge Mass (Harvard)
    With due respect to the comment posters - it’s all in eye of beholder I suppose - the Colorado comment

    Why do we have blackberries ? And all the broom in bright yellow bloom now? And Russian knapweed in Okanagan ?
    An Unwanted Orchid » Arnold Arboretum

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    I suppose you could dig up a few and pot them up in a safe place and see what further happens and meanwhile get rid of the rest of what you think you have — ie the nasty version

    I notice there is a known and photographed occurrence of the gigantica at the Roderick Haig Brown BC provincial park —- is that Campbell River ? See BC report link above.
    (NB ÉDIT - thé Roderick Haig Brown Park is nr Adams River BC which makes sense given his dedication to salmon - although he lived in Campbell River BC)
     
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  3. Margot

    Margot Renowned Contributor 10 Years

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    Thanks for your comments Georgia Strait.

    It is my understanding (from EFlora BC) that Epipactis gigantea is native to BC - not necessarily to my local area - though Campbell River isn't that far away. Interesting that it is not shown on the EFlora interactive map anywhere on Vancouver Island.

    Epipactis helleborine
    is introduced - and it seems, showing up in more and more gardens. It evidently spreads by seed. I think I'd better start to remove it before it becomes a problem I can't control especially if the rhizome is difficult to dig up.
     
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    I inherited a patch of orange flower “alstroemeria”

    What a nightmare

    I mean it’s a pretty flower but it spreads like crazy

    I also bought expensive soil loaded w fireweed - another horror - those roots travel!

    The bright light is that the hummingbirds and bees love the flowers !
     
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    I MUST CORRECT - the gigantic version is in the Roderick Haig Brown park nr Adams River

    I assumed Campbell River - ie his home turf.

    If you look at that BC report fr 2013 — lots of sites in Thompson Okanagan - tho I can’t recall seeing it and I am fairly familiar w the popular easily id plants.
     
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    Epipactis gigantea can be seen from Highway 1 near Revelstoke, if you know where to look. It is much more common, though (and easier to find) south of the border.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Here's a photo from 5 years ago (plus a day), taken of Epipactis gigantea in Zion National Park... you can tell how it likes wet feet!
     

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    That's a beautiful photo!
     
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    I remember when it seemed everyone wanted Alstroemeria and those who planted it, soon regretted it. Same with Romneya coulteri, California tree poppy.
     
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