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  1. Anne Eng

    Anne Eng Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    The Ukon on Ontario and 18th are in bloom, along with Kanzan, at April 16, 2020.
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    Kiku-shidare in bloom at SW corner W. 20th and Ontario at April 16, 2020.
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    Avium Plena in bloom on north side of W. 29th, east of Cambie at April 19, 2020.
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    On a wander, I found this fascinating pair of young trees, in full bloom, on private property in front of a house on the south side of Aubrey Place, about ½ block west of St. George:
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    What are they?
     
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    Why do you not think they are 'Ama-no-gawa'?
     
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    Actually, that was my first thought, but these blossoms seemed simpler, i.e. less ornate.
    Now that I look at my own Ama-no-gawa photos on the Kensington thread, though, I'm becoming more and more convinced that that is what they are.
     
  7. Anne Eng

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    Prime location to view Shogetsu: several trees planted at Queen Elizabeth Park, in the area just below the great Somei-Yoshino at W. 33rd and Cambie. In bloom April 23, 2020. Next post compares the triple SSS (Shirotae, Shogetsu, Shiro-fugen) in the same area.
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    Shirotae, Shogetsu, Shiro-fugen planted at Queen Elizabeth Park, in the area just below the great Somei-Yoshino at W. 33rd and Cambie, April 23, 2020.
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    Shirotae finishing next to Shogetsu in bloom.
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    Shiro-fugen with Shogetsu; and Shiro-fugen close-up.
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    Kiku-shidare is finishing its bloom on 450 W. 37th (south side, east of Kersland) at April 23, 2020.
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    The Ukon grove in Queen Elizabeth Park's Pitch and Putt (Ontario and W. 33rd) is just past peak bloom at April 23, 2020.
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    Ama-no-gawa across from Queen Elizabeth Park in a private front yard on Kersland Drive, between W. 33rd and W. 35th, is in the pink at April 23, 2020.
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  12. Lisa L

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    lovely blocks of 'Kanzan'. 18th from Main to Carolina i have been appreciating these ones on my bike ride home from work for the last week and 1/2. Especially beautiful as the sun hits the tops of them at sunset.
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    last of the blossoms on the great 'Somei-Yoshino'. Fading to dark pink, but look at the hairs on the leaves
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    Yes, and little hairs on the pedicels (flower stems) too.
     
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    Anne we must have missed each other yesterday up at QE. I was getting confused as to which tree was which. The 'Shirofugen' i am confident with, double green phyllioid pistal (elephant trunks) in centre with the bronze leaf (this week). But this one? is it a 'Shirotoe' ?? it is not all that horizontal, but the new bright greenleaf with lots of hairs is shirotoe characteristic. No scent that I could detect, but my nose hasn't been particularly good this year. Sepals have few hairs and marginal teeth, but there is only one that looks like 2 marginal teeth. Not all that double either........ So what is it?
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    The rest of the petals are probably on the ground by now. It's 'Shirotae'. There is an optimum time to identify these things. In this case, though, double whites with sepals like this that are finished now (I'm calling this finished now) are 'Shirotae'.
     
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    next mystery. These ones have frilly petals, very double, nice pink bud and lots of those phylloids..... I read that 'Ichiyo' usually has a single phylloid, but many of them actually have two. The new leaf growth is green so it can't be 'shirofugen' cause it would be bronze new leaf. But are the petals tooo frilly for 'Ichiyo'? and the buds not as bright pink?? It does have the flat topped growth of 'Ichioyo'. Could it be 'Shogetsu'? the petals are frilly but what about all those phylloids??...... Sepals of 'Ichioyo' are long and pointed, 'Shogetsu' are toothed and slightly convex, but I can't see close enough on the sepals ....if anything they look a bit more long to me......Experts what do you think? Anne and Wendy say 'Shogetsu'... "Moonlight on the pine trees".......I love that name :)
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    This one is 'Shirofugen'. double Phylloid pistals, (elephant trunks), double white petals, pale pink buds. the bright red/pink bracts.
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    another tree and another mystery. This looks very similar to the tree in post 242, but there seemed to be more single phylloids. So I am going to guess this may be 'Ichiyo'??. The sepals are more noticeable in some of the shots, but again are the long and pointed ('Ichiyo')or irregularly toothed and convexed ('Shogetsu')?? Then there was a couple of flowers with that petalloid like 'Akebono' has.... Leaves are emerging bronzy green but i think both 'Ichiyo' and 'Shogetsu' do that... So if the one in 242 is Shogetsu due to the frilly petals, is this one a Shogetsu too???
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    Bicycle girl, don't you read your alerts? This is Shogetsu, as per my post #232 and #233, yesterday:

    Prime location to view Shogetsu: several trees planted at Queen Elizabeth Park, in the area just below the great Somei-Yoshino at W. 33rd and Cambie. In bloom April 23, 2020. Next post compares the triple SSS (Shirotae, Shogetsu, Shiro-fugen) in the same area.

    You'll also see the Shirotae mentioned on your cherry scouting biking trip. So you see: two-wheel good; four-wheel—better.
     
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    Forgot to mention: the key giveaway that it's Shogetsu and not Ichiyo is the "fringed-edged petals." That is why the QE location is so great; you can get close-ups of trees, flowers and petals. The only other white cultivar with ragged edges is Washi-no-o and the Eagle Tails aren't in bloom anymore.
     
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    Your third photo in that posting is the best example ever of the fringed edges on 'Shogetsu' petals.
     
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    This group of 3 trees just below the tennis courts at QE. ON the map they are listed as young Shirotoe' in 2017. you can see lots of growth since then. Lots of petals on the ground too. Peachy colour to bracts. and lots of hairy edges to both the bracts, and new leaves. And in one photo it looks like there may be a couple of early fruits.....
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    i did, but i couldn't figure out which tree was which, and i thought that 2 of them looked different due to that phylloid thing. more singles in the one tree.... So i thought i had 4 different trees.
     
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    back to the mystery tree at the top of QE next to the fountain.....but I think it/they have been determined to be 'Somei-Yoshino'. post 183 was my original, Anne 194, mine again 212 and now this final one. Flowers definitely fading to the same colour and structure as the grand dame (post 238) . The leaves on these specimans seem a bit more linear quilted, but that could be exposure.
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