Plant ID for UK

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  1. SDV

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    I would be grateful for any ID on these plants.
     

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    The second one looks like the cones of Larix decidua, the European Larch.
     
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    First - Poplars (Populus nigra).
     
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  4. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    #1 - Populus nigra 'Plantierensis'
    #2 - Larix decidua
     
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    wow... do North American larch also have beautiful purple flowers like that??
     
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  6. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Yes, though smaller:

    (photo credit: Steven Katovich, USDA Forest Service; cc-by license)
     

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    Daniel Mosquin Paragon of Plants UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    To be pedantic, these aren't flowers per se, but young cones.
     
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    Michael, What in the first picture would help you distinguish this from the Lombardy Poplar, Populus nigra 'Italica'?
     
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  9. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    'Italica' is narrower, and (in Britain and Ireland) also rarely healthy in our oceanic climate, being adapted to a more Mediterranean climate with hot dry summers. About 95-98% of the "Lombardy Poplars" you see in Britain and Ireland are really 'Plantierensis', and not 'Italica'.

    'Plantierensis' is a cross between 'Italica' and NW Europe's native Populus nigra subsp. betulifolia; it gets its oceanic climate tolerance from the latter parent.

    Here's a group of 'Italica' (left; spot all the dead wood!) and 'Plantierensis' (right) for comparison:
     

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