Honesty... and big ID project

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  1. jackcoiner

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    I will start my first post with the honest info that I am not a gardener and am not that interested in it except as photography. I do appreciate it and envy those with the ability, patience and natural ability though - so thanks to all of you true enthusiasts out there making our world pretty and much better smelling.

    I am making a photo book for a very good friend who has a beautiful English garden in Ontario. I visited, took the photos and like a dummy didn't write down what they are. I need to lean on the experts for flower ID. Any help you give me would be very appreciated. I'm sure these are easy to identify and will show you how much I don't know about plants. I have a couple written in that I think are right...

    I'm reaching out to this community of 'plant-know-it-alls'; here is the link and anything you can provide would be much appreciated: http://picasaweb.google.com/jack.coiner/ID?authkey=Gv1sRgCN---IWUotKV8QE&feat=directlink

    Jack
     
  2. Barbara Lloyd

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    #1. Native or at least naturalized Sea Pea (Sweet Pea); grows wild along the roadside here in the PNW.
    #3. Dahlia - pom pom type don't know which one.
    #7. Petunia ?
    #11. Dahlia - spider type, again, don't know which one.
    The White Carnation looks more like a rose.
    These are guesses, but others will chime in....barb
     
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    Thanks so much Ms. Lloyd - I was reaching with the carnation thing...
     
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    My answers are best guesses, so wait for others to answer to be sure. The Dahlia's are probably good. There are just a bazillions types and not my favorites so haven't a clue as to which ones.

    Just a hint - it helps if you put something in each pic to help indicate size of blossom. And try to get at least the center or the whole the flower. That can make a big difference. Also a leaf with the flower would be a big help.

    #7 may be a gazania - not sure. #'s 5 ,9, & 12 look like a different view of the same flower.

    There is a tremendous amount of knowledge on this forum, so answers should be forth coming...barb
     
  5. Silver surfer

    Silver surfer Generous Contributor 10 Years

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    Welcome jackcoiner.

    Oh! Too many at one go!!!!
    In future I am sure you would get very quick answers by posting just 4 -5 pics per thread. Group all the pics of the same plant together. ( I think you have 3 of the same Phlox) Even better if you post the images live here for all to see. The pics will then remain for good.

    If you delete the pics from your Picassa album they will disappear from UBC and make this thread completely meaningless.

    It is very time consuming to write a long list ....then type it in. Having to click back and fore to check your link.
    It is also difficult for others to see what has already been answered and debate names etc.

    We may need to ask for further pics to show leaves/ whole plant etc

    1. Lathyrus.
    2. Echinacea.
    3. Dahlia.
    4. ? See also 15.
    5. Phlox.
    6. ?
    7. Petunia.
    8. Dahlia.
    9. Close up of Phlox!.
    10. Hydrangea.
    11. Dahlia
    12. Phlox... again!
    13. Rosa.
    14. Dahlia.
    15. ? See also 4.
    16. Rudbeckia.
    17. Astilbe.
    18. Lily
     
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  6. Lila Pereszke

    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    1. Lathyrus tuberosus
    2. Echinacea purpurea
    3., 8., 11., 14. Dahlia sp.
    4., 15. Mirabilis jalapa
    5., 9., 12. Phlox paniculata
    7. Petunia sp.
    10. Hydrangea sp.
    13. Rosa sp.
    (16. Rudbeckia OK)
    (17. astilbe OK)
    18. Lilium sp. (Not Alstroemeria)
     
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    18 looks like a Tiger Lily, Lilium lancifolium var. flaviflorum
     
  8. jackcoiner

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    Excellent point Silver Surfer. I will see what I can do about adding the attachments instead of pointing the thread to a web album. Thank you for your responses.
     
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    Jack,
    You got 2 of the best to answer. The stumper seems to be the yellow tissue papery one with the three red spots (stamens). Hang in there - someone may get that one too....barb
     
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    Here are the first three from the album.

    It seems that #1 is a sweet pea (Luthyrus Odoratus) or Tuberus Pea (Luthyrus Tuberosus).

    #2 is a Echinacea purpurea

    #3 is a Dahlia, it seems I have a number of dahlias in here - they look so different to me...
     

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    #4 is a Mirabilis jalapa (Marvel of Peru, 4 o'clock flower)
    #5 Phlox - again, I have more than one phlox
    #6 ? sorry, this pic is an extreme close up of a very small flower, I don't have any other pics of it.
     

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    #7 Petunia
    #8 Dahlia
    #9 Phlox - same as #5
     

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    #10 Hydrangea petiolaris
    #11 Dahlia
    #12 Phlox - yet again, okay - I really liked this flower!
     

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    #13 Rose
    #14 Dahlia
    #15 Mirabilis jalapa (same pic in there twice)
     

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    #16 Rudbeckia
    #17 Astilbe
    #18 Lily

    That's the lot of them, thanks so much for these answers. I hope this makes it easier to see what we are talking about. I know that you believe that #18 is a Lily and I will certainly bow to your expertise but some pics I found of the Alstroemeria (particularly here: http://www.floridata.com/wallpaper/jpg/Alstroemeria_hybrid800b.jpg) sure looks the same...

    So only number 6, the pretty little yellow flower remains unidentified.

    Thanks again,
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    Thanks Ms. Lloyd - I posted the pics in the forum to make it less confusing.
     
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    #6 could be Oenethra, but it's really hard to tell without seeing foliage or other views of the flower.
     
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    That is brilliant. So much easier. Thank you!

    10. Hydrangea. It is impossible to id as Hydrangea petiolaris without seeing the whole shrub and whole head, not just one flower.

    18. Sorry it is definitely Lilium. Not the correct shape petals for Alstroemeria.

    Next time just a few at a time though! Start a new thread for each batch.
     
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    The more I look at #6, the more it strikes me as a partially-closed yellow Mirabilis....
     
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    I like this thought - looking through images on web, its likely, thank you so much.
     
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    I found the original file I used for this little flower... I didn't realize I had cropped the photo as I saved it. Sorry about that but I think this might make it easier to identify?
     

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    Lorax has it; Mirabilis jalapa.
     
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    This is great everyone, thanks for your help. My friends picture book is going to be awesome because of your efforts!
     

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