what tree/shrub do these seeds come from?

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  1. CCR

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    Hello,

    Could anyone tell me what plants are these seeds coming from? The brown ones are from a tree and the reds from a rather small shrub.

    Thank you in advance!

    CCR
     

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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi!
    1. is an Euonymus (europaeus?)
    2. is an Ulmus (minor?)
     
  3. Tyrlych

    Tyrlych Rising Contributor 10 Years

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    #2 might also be Ptelea fruit.
     
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    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    OK! Ptelea vs. Ulmus: 2-1... :)
     
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    Thanks a lot! I looked them up on Google and it seems that they really are euonymus europaea and ptelea.

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    CCR.
    Hmm! Not sure whether it is Ptelea or not. Can you check the leaves? They should be in threes. Attached are pics of ours taken today. Our seeds have a heart shaped bottom end.
    Pic 1 is yours.
     

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    tipularia Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    These are not cordate... LINK
     
  9. CCR

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    hard to tell.. actually I got it from a tree. I think it didn't have anymore leaves at this time. The seeds look pretty similar to yours. They were grouped in a similar manner and some of them are slightly heart shapped at the bottom.

    I'm new to gardening/horticulture, I've never grown plants from seeds. Is it ok to plant them at this time in pots, in the house? Do you know any interesting article describing how to grow plants from seeds? I would appreciate it a lot!

    I just got some those seeds and also seeds of a very beautiful clerodendrum fortunei and, a type of viburnum and syringa vulgaris. I'm planning to have them in the garden as soon as possible.

    Thanks for the input!

    CCR
     
  10. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Ptelea is very rare in Europe, pretty much major botanical gardens only. Ulmus will outnumber it by something like 100,000 to 1. Unless the seeds were collected in Bucharest's botanical garden, then an Ulmus.
     
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    Dear Michael,

    Actually the seeds were collected in Bucharest Botanical Garden :-).
    I hope it is a ptelea, as I know ulmus is pretty high, and this tree was rather small.

    Regards,

    CCR
     
  12. Lila Pereszke

    Lila Pereszke Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    :)))
     
  13. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    That removes the sole objection to Ptelea, then!
     
  14. Ron B

    Ron B Paragon of Plants 10 Years

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    Elm seeds tend to mature and disperse early in the year.
     
  15. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Most do, but some species are autumn-maturing.
     
  16. CCR

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    Can you please give me some advice about planting them? I have never planted from seeds...

    I am planning to plant these and some viburnum, syringa vulgaris, and clerodendron trichotomum seeds. All of them are collected last week.

    Is it the right time to plant them now? What is the procedure?

    Thanks a lot!

    CCR
     
  17. Michael F

    Michael F Paragon of Plants Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Best to store them cold (1° to 2°) and moist in damp sand (not dripping wet!) over the winter, and sow in spring.
     

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