Acer Negundo Flamingo - 3 types of leaf color

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  1. Renata Magda

    Renata Magda Member

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    We almost gave up on this tree. It was just gorgeous - the biggest highlight of the whole garden with sun shining behind it and a dark evergreen backdrop for contrast in our cabin garden in Norway. Unfortunately it rained almost every day last summer so the tree stood a long time in stagnant water. Ther were some leaves that year but not many. To try and save it we placed it in a dryer sunnier spot this year but there were no leaves at all. In June I cut it right down to the trunk (about 2 meters tall) leaving nothing but an amusing bare stick! My husband painted the ends so it shouldn't dry out and lo and behold .....LEAVES, SHOOTS galore. I am almost seeing them grow by the minute.
    HOWEVER, I have the normal variegated shrimp color, BUT also reverted leaves that are just green (as mentioned in the article by Douglas Justice pasted below) and pure WHITE leaves and PINK leaves whithout pattern. Some look like albino leaves. So what to do? I don't want the green to take over and I prefer the variegated shrimpy color over plain white an plain pink. Do I cut off ALL the unwanted? Will I have a lopsided tree? Can anyone draw a diagram of a branch collar for me which is where you are supposed to trim off the leaves????

    Thanks very much for any views....

    Renata

    from 2003.....
     
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  2. whis4ey

    whis4ey Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Just remove the green :)
     
  3. emery

    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    I'd even leave the green until next year. It will need all the nourishment it can get. This one puts on a display after cutting back hard, it seems a funny time for it to revert.

    I'd wait and see. Glad to hear it survived. A. negundo seems to be able to put up with some pretty extreme conditions, even serious wet. Bravo for sticking with it.

    -E
     
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    alex66 Rising Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    ditto Sam and Emery!
     
  5. Gomero

    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    Like Emery said, I would leave the green leaves: you have cut the top but the roots (at least those that did not rot) were being supported by a denser crown so to balance the tree and avoid potential collapse you'd better keep all the leaves. You will have plenty of time for pruning them off next year

    Gomero
     
  6. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    I think a photo of the tree may help settle
    some issues about whether to prune out
    the green leaves or not.

    Reverting leaves can be problem but so
    can leaves that return to wild type or in
    the case of Flamingo leaves that are like
    the rootstock. In either case, it is usually
    prudent to pluck off the leaves or rub off
    the stems that have green leaves as there
    is a better than good chance that even the
    non vigorous green growth can become
    vigorous later on and will try to take over
    the tree. I would not leave the green
    leaves on the tree at all but if you
    are limited for total leaf volume then
    they may have to stay (your choice)
    until your tree better adapts to its new
    location in your yard. Douglas gave
    you sage advice regarding this tree.
    I concur having seen my fair share
    of variegated trees become all green
    rather fast when people did not take
    heed of such pertinent, conscientious
    advice.

    Jim
     
  7. Renata Magda

    Renata Magda Member

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    I will certainly send a photo in asap I go back to the cabin. Its raining now and 14 degrees! So I have to wait. I'm also really interested in how the all white leaves and all pink leaves occur and why only the all green take over. Douglas's older mail was directed to another maple enthusiast, but I certainly would think such eloquent and knowledgable answers like that one should be framed and placed on a wall. AMAZING!!!!!
    I'll send a photo in a week. Should I continue on this thread or start new?

    Hilsen

    Renata
     
  8. Gomero

    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    Use same thread!!!!

    Gomero
     
  9. Renata Magda

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    Here are some photos of my recovering acer negundo flamingo...........
     

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    Gomero Well-Known Member Maple Society 10 Years

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    Where are the reverted leaves???

    Gomero
     
  11. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Gomero, at the risk of alienating Renata,
    I'll provide my reply to a Private Message
    that came into me shortly after the photos
    were posted.

    ‘8 Hours Ago
    mr.shep
    Plant Collector/Home Gardener
    Join Date: Mar 2004
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    Question Re: Photos of Acer Negundo Flamingo

    Hello Renata:

    Just took a look at the photos and
    feel you are in good shape. Even
    the leaves that are mostly green
    still show some variegation. It
    is when we see new growth at the
    tips of the branches that leaf out
    an abnormal (for a variegated tree)
    amount of non variegated leaves is
    when we may have to prune or rub
    off that stem.

    Flamingo is not a stable tree until
    it gets some age in the ground. In
    other words, for a while you can
    expect to see different patterns of
    color in the leaves until the tree
    settles down in time. Then you
    may see leaves that appear to
    look pretty uniform in color
    and markings year in and year
    out from then on.

    Please note: Acer negundo is
    a Maple that is notorious for
    sending out sucker growth from
    the bottom of the base of the
    tree (usually seen come about
    from ground level). If you
    ever you see these vigorous
    green growth sucker growths
    you should immediately prune
    them off the trunk or at the
    ground level. It is doubtful
    these growths will be variegated
    but if they are you can decide
    whether or not to keep them on
    the tree, but even if they are
    variegated, if you want to keep
    this a single trunk tree rather
    than a large shrub or a multiple
    trunk tree then they probably
    should come off as well. A lot
    will depend on the amount of
    top growth you are or have
    been or have not been getting
    should you want to keep any of
    the variegated sucker growth..’

    Jim
     
  12. Renata Magda

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    Thanks Mr Shep!

    That this tree looks in good shape now is absoultely the BEST news this summer:)

    I'll paste in one more photo on this thread in a couple of days and after that I look forward to having a nice contribution for the photo gallery some day.


    Renata
     
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    Here are two last pics showing the variety and 'explosion' of new foliage on my tree............

    Thanks for sharing outstanding knowledge and excellent tips for all threads, and enjoy your maples this fall everyone.

    Renata
     

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