Seeds 2022

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  1. Soumil Yarlagadda

    Soumil Yarlagadda Well-Known Member Maple Society

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    Should i remove the sprouted seed from stratification and plant it, or let the root grow a little more?
     
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    I would give them a little longer.

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    Soumil Yarlagadda Well-Known Member Maple Society

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    montpellier maple and sugar maple could hybridize right? according to this chart. there ar eso many possible hybrids.
     

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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    I don't think so.

    Actually, I'm pretty sure they can't. Sorry... ;°)
     
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    Soumil Yarlagadda Well-Known Member Maple Society

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    Acer macrophyllum (bigleaf maple) seeds sprouting
     

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    emery Renowned Contributor Maple Society 10 Years

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    No (pretty much) inter-sectional hybridization allowed in Acer.

    What paper is the illustration from? I recognize but can't place it. You might want to check out Li et al 2019 for the latest molecular study of Acer.

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    Edit: heh, don't know if that links to the paper, I copied the URL. The OSI paperlinks page has it: https://maplesociety.org/osi-paper-links/

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  8. Soumil Yarlagadda

    Soumil Yarlagadda Well-Known Member Maple Society

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    Just exposed the roots of two sugar maple seeds. Is this a bad idea?
     

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    Leave them to do their thing. These are strong growers.

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    AlainK Renowned Contributor Forums Moderator Maple Society 10 Years

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    If the roots are exposed, you should plant them in a growing medium right now.
     
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    Totally agree with Alain. But don't mess with the roots.

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    Finding naturally stratified/germinated seedlings never fails to put a smile on my face.

    These were in a large Ginkgo tree pot..I wonder if the green tip one is a Ginkgo..definitely does not look like an AP..could be something else of course
     

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  13. AlainK

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    Is there a female tree around (you should smell it in autumn!) ?...

    If not, I think it's unlikely to be a Ginkgo. Or a seed could have already been in the pot when you bought it. See: Ginkgo biloba - Wikipedia
     
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    Hi Alain -Thanks. I’ve had this one in a very large pot for 14 years now…it’s about 13foot!! I picked up a dwarf ginkgo “Troll” in the summer, too soon for that one to be involved!! Maybe a neighbour has one..I haven’t been over there for years!
     
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    Such a horrible smell.

    @dicky5ash it look like it is. I'll post a pic of my seedlings once I'm able to get in the greenhouse. Snowed in at the moment.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Unfortunately the rest of the batch began to get infected with mold and i had to throw a lot out. Should i plant those seeds now? I manually exposed the roots of these two seeds
     
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    Yes plant them up now. But leave the new roots alone.

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    Last question, will planting these seeds with the manually exposed roots overcome their dormancy?
     
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    @dicky5ash I'm about 80% sure it might be. Here is a few pics of some seedlings I have.

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    Here is a few seedling from 'Sango Kaku'. These are from 2020 and 21.

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    Yes they should be OK without anymore manual help.

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    Soumil Yarlagadda Well-Known Member Maple Society

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    Mold destroyed most of my seeds :( I have been pestering this entire forum with repeated questions about shortening cold stratification and using all these annoying techniques, but i guess theyre useless without any fungicide. I should just try using the normal reccomended method, but even trying that mold destroys every seed. It seems that paper towel seems to be extremely mold prone, but i dont have any other medium
     
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  24. Soumil Yarlagadda

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    did anyone try germinating acer obtusifolium? (syrian maple) or at least grown it? its a nice evergeen maple from the levant. its pretty similar to the Cretan Maple and Montpellier maple.
     
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    planting these sugar maple seeds in the soil now. none of these actually sprouted through the testa, i scraped the testa off to reveal the root, then washed the roots to remove inhibitors ( think it may work). hope these seed will sprout by 2 weeks. The seeds have only been chilled in the fridge since feb 4th. maybe im removing them too early, who knows, i just want to see if they grow instead of thme just rotting in the fridge. @simongrant
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