Yellow Plum Tree Problem

Discussion in 'Fruit and Nut Trees' started by Unregistered - Guest SharonB, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. Hi - can anyone tell me what is/was wrong with our yellow plum tree? Five years ago we planted 2 3ft runners from a mother tree, near the shore of the southeast side of the Ottawa river in good soil, in nearly full sunlight. Outwardly it seems very happy. 2 years ago we had our first 3 or 4 plums.
    Last year the leaves had what appeared to be thick, green hair-like pieces (almost like thin worms but they weren't worms) hanging on the underside of many of the leaves & it had a few fruit - all but one shrivelled up & turned black.
    This year we have seen the same things on the underside of several of the leaves but attempted to remove the leaves whenever we noticed the funny things on the leaves (near the end of the flowering), but this year we have many fruit which look healthy and are ripening. We still haven't figured out what they are or if we are doing what we should be doing to help our tree...(the mother tree is 3 cottages over & does not have this problem) If anyone can help us it would be greatly appreciated. Our email is queenmoly@excite.com
    Thanks very much. Sharon B. in Quebec
     
  2. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Sharon:

    You may have to show me some pictures of the
    "thick, green hair-like pieces (almost like thin
    worms but they weren't worms)". What would
    interest me more is seeing a picture of the "all
    but one shriveled up & turned black." Plums.

    < Five years ago we planted 2 3ft runners from a
    mother tree, near the shore of the southeast side
    of the Ottawa river in good soil, in nearly full
    sunlight. Outwardly it seems very happy. 2 years
    ago we had our first 3 or 4 plums. >

    When you say runners do you mean cuttings or
    air layerings from the mother tree? The answer
    above is rather important for me to know. Also,
    were the 3 or 4 Plums the same as the Plums on
    the Mother tree? How were these 3 or 4 Plums
    for quality? Do the tips or the sides of the leaves
    on these 2 trees ever curl under the rest of the leaf?

    You will probably have to join the forums in order
    to show me the pictures I will need to see to help
    you. I am not sure your insect problem is causing
    the fruit to shrivel up and turn black. You may want
    to tell me more of your growing conditions and your
    basic care for these trees such as how do you water,
    how often do you water, do you fertilize your trees
    and do you ever use a fungicide spray as a preventative
    for fruit diseases.

    Jim
     
  3. Hi Jim
    < Five years ago we planted 2 3ft runners from a
    mother tree, near the shore of the southeast side
    of the Ottawa river in good soil, in nearly full
    sunlight. Outwardly it seems very happy. 2 years
    ago we had our first 3 or 4 plums. >
    (When you say runners do you mean cuttings or
    air layerings from the mother tree? The answer
    above is rather important for me to know. Also,
    were the 3 or 4 Plums the same as the Plums on
    the Mother tree? How were these 3 or 4 Plums
    for quality? Do the tips or the sides of the leaves
    on these 2 trees ever curl under the rest of the leaf?)

    They were new small trees growing from the mother & were dug up and transplanted. The first 3/4 Plums& the lone Plum last year looked like & were sweet tasting just as the Mother tree fruit, and this year's bumper crop looks the same(still not ripened yet).. I think there was a very slight curling on the leaves - will check with my husband this weekend at the cottage & reply again......The only change to the care/watering was that this year we started removing the leaves when we noticed the things on the underside of them, and put in a waterpump to the river last month and have been watering with the warmer river water rather than the cold well water - nothing else is different from previous years.... Thanks for your response. SharonB
     
  4. Hi Again, Jim
    My husband & I both looked at the leaves & they do not curl - there are a few leaves with the things (the word scillia comes to mind when I look at them) on the undersides, but the fruit seems ok & is ripening. Thanks again for all your help.
    Sharon B. in Quebec
     
  5. mr.shep

    mr.shep Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Hi Sharon:

    Sorry for the delay to get back to you
    but I really do not know what to tell
    you. I cannot ID the insect without
    seeing a picture of it.

    The aspect of the Plum turning black
    is what I would have the most concern
    with. That is a condition that if it
    happens again then you may want to
    start a fungicide spray regimen in the
    Spring with a Calcium or Copper based
    fungicide if you can locate one. It has
    been my experience with cutting grown
    Plums that the newly grown trees are
    much more susceptible to fungus
    diseases than the parent is. It does not
    always hold true for "wild" Plums or
    other Plum like fruit but it does seem
    to be quite true for sports from an old
    grafted variety of Plum on fruiting Plum
    rootstock and the old (60’s) cutting grown
    varieties of Plums also

    Jim
     
  6. Hello again, Jim
    Thanks very much for your very valuable feedback. The plums seem fine and are almost ripe (it has been a very cold summer with not a great amount of sun). We will watch for fungus & follow your advice in spring if necessary. Our sincere thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

    Sharon B. in Quebec
     

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