Wildflowers id help

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  1. Elena Regina

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    Lazio, Italy, IV-2017 - Photo by Elena Regina - Thank you in advance for your help!

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  2. Daniel Mosquin

    Daniel Mosquin Renowned Contributor UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Was this a montane environment? I don't know if Thlaspi montanum occurs there, but it looks similar.
     
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    According to FLORA Ď' ITALIA, VOL. 1 PP. 446 AUTHOR was Sandro Pignati. This 3 volume work is considered to be the only true and reliable BIBLE of Italian botanist. A must for all Italian Botanical gardens. I use this publication when absolutely necessary as it is extremely technical. I wanted to add the 5 volumes of Flora European by Tutin and others, but I fear it to be far too technical for a79 year old amateur botanist.
     
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    I forgot to mention that the sp. montanum doesn'the have an entry in the above mentioned volumes. However, Thlaspi Montanum was only referred to under the section Thlaspi Alpestre. Thlaspi alpestre grows throughout Italy.
     
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    Daniel Mosquin Renowned Contributor UBC Botanical Garden Forums Administrator Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    duffy, this says a new edition is in preparation: Flora d'Italia - NUOVA EDIZIONE IN PREPARAZIONE

    Can you let me know if this means any revisions have been added or things like family names have been updated? (Sorry Elena to hijack your thread!)
     
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    hello Mr. Daniel, I already own the new 2011 edition; I don't think it has been revised as Family names are unchanged ie: Asteraceae is still listed as Compositae, another case is Umbellifereae, Apiaceae isn't used etc. So really I would describe it as a non- revised reprint.
     
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    The old names Compositae and Umbellifereae remain valid, even if not so much used now - so that can't be considered a reasoning for saying it is not revised. The editors may have taken the decision to retain them.
    As an aside - it is Noccaea (as given in the linked paper), not "Noccæa"; the Danish / Norwegian letter æ is not permitted in scientific names.
     
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    Thank you! So, Noccaea montana?
     
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    Michael F Esteemed Contributor Forums Moderator 10 Years

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    Sorry, I don't know if your plant is that or not, I was just mentioning the correct spelling of the name ;-)
     
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    Yes, given the elevation, I would go with Noccaea montana.
     

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