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Discussion in 'Ornamental Cherries' started by Junglekeeper, Apr 26, 2017.
Tree at 3449 West 7th Ave, fighting for space with its neighbours:
Update on Apr 27, 2017:
I went to see this tree today and I'm sure I have not seen one like it before. Everything I've looked up has failed to match the characteristics. I wonder if it's a seedling. It is a stunning tree, doing a good job of competing with the Douglas fir for the canopy top. It also looks very healthy, except for the bit that has no flowers.
I assumed that the flowers at peak bloom would have been white, but a neighbour said that they never got really white, were always a pale pink. I saw one flower that looked white, and even looks white in my not posted out-of-focus photo, but that could have faded to white before the petals started bleed out pink from the red centres. The neighbour also said that it has been in bloom for 10 days. That would put its blooming time at late mid-season, similar to 'Tai-haku', which have lost most of their flowers by now in this neighbourhood.
Junglekeeper's photos capture most of the bits necessary for ID. I'm just adding more of the same.
Here is the tree, the trunk, and the green bit that belongs to the tree but doesn't have any flowers. It didn't really seem to be a witches' broom; I don't know what the story is there.
Here are flowers. They are 3cm in diameter, even this much past peak bloom. I ruled out Edo-higan for the blooming date, flowers more than 1.5-2.0 cm, and calyx not particularly small and not urceolate (no distinctly narrower mouth). The Edo-higan characteristics are from Kuitert, Japanese Flowering Cherries.
There are a lot of cherries developing.
I thought the leaves were single-serrated from Junglekeeper's photo, but there are some leaves that are double-serrated. I see in some descriptions in Kuitert that leaf edges can vary like that. They do not have hairs on the leaf edges.
The photos are to show hairs on the pedicels and very sparse hairs on the green calyx, and also the serrated sepals, fairly small green bud scales, and flower bractlets.
This shows the root growth along the ground.
I'm interested in a tree that @Nadia White Rock just posted in Burnaby with a lot of flowers, when 'Akebono' have no flowers remaining, and with narrow petals like the ones here. Burnaby link.
I see a comment made by @Douglas Justice regarding a tree we never identified before it died:
. If that is witches' broom, maybe the blooming time should be much less a factor in the ID, and same for the tree that Nadia found.
Still no positive id? I wonder if our resident cherry expert, Douglas Justice, has had a look at it. Or are you concluding it's a tree under stress?
@Junglekeeper, how about reminding us in the spring, early enough to try to catch the flowers before they've turned, particularly to get the flower colour.
I'll make a note to do so.