I'm usually pretty good about playing "name that cultivar" with roses (a good friend is a serious rose nut) but since I moved to Ecuador I've been encountering things I have quite literally never seen before. Can anybody help me out with this pair? Photos one and two are of some seriously long-stemmed two-tones. The stems on these puppies are pushing three feet, and the flower is about three inches tall itself. In case the colour hasn't come out correctly in the photos, they are pale green with pale pink to rose edges and centers. Photos three and four are of very slender longstems, about 18 inch stems with 2-1/2 inch tall flowers on them. These were fuchsia stripes on white. I am leaning towards Camaieux, but I could be quite wrong. Thanks in advance, folks!