Still over 3000 m in the Ecuadorean Andes

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  1. Fidel

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    I am having a bit of a struggle with some of the plants found in grassland created for grazing from cleared brush. Here are two more. One is clearly an Asteraceae, but I'm not sure what family the other belongs to. Any guidance as to genus (and more if possible) would be a great help.
     

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    tipularia Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Looks like a Malvaceae.
     
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    Thanks Tip and Wendy. My first thought was also Malvaceae - so we seem to have narrowed the search a bit. Thanks for the Kew link, interesting but perhaps not providing an answer (yet).

    The search continues and I now believe that the Aster is Sigesbeckia jorullensis, known as Papakiwa in Ecuador.
     
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    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    Do you have any Madia species listed for that area?
     
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    I see what you mean Andrey. As far as I know, no (but then I'm a learner in this ecosystem).
     
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    Andrey Zharkikh Well-Known Member 10 Years

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    The flower in the second photo looks tetrameric.
     
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    Could that be a help to suggest a genus?
     
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    Not yet, but this could tell that this is not in malvaceae family, which normally have 5-meric flowers and stamens merged into a tube around the pistils.
    The onagraceae family has 4-meric flower. However, with the 4-split ovaries and without a long style, this plant does not fit into it.
    So, this is still a puzzle to me...
     
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    I am very glad to see that you are engaged in the mystery! I find that, very unusually, I only took one photo of the flower. However what you see above is a cropped version. Just in case there is more useful detail, I am attaching the complete photo in the hope that it may furnish further clues. Thanks for your interest!
     

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