I would like to inititiate some discussion around a few groundcovers I am experimenting with in a patio-style garden in Saanich on Vancouver Island, basically a patch of ground between a patio and the back wall of a townhouse planted with groundcovers to discover which ones are stand-outs in hardiness, attractiveness, density, are useful under Japanese maples and remain low in height... ; in mid-day they are experiencing half-day sun, half-day shade, in a north-western aspect. I would appreciate any feedback on "Ogon", botanical name Sedum makinoi, which is a lovely small round-leaved groundcover and looks more delicate than other sedums. It is growing well, more yellow where it gets more light, seems tolerant of fluctuations of dryness and moisture. My question re Ogon is, is it winter-hardy in SW coastal BC? The groundcover I have not been able to find much info on is Hypericum "empetrifolium nanum", label calls it St. John's Wort although it is tiny and flat and tightly-knit, not invasive at all, not like any of the other St. John's Worts... We have grown Blue Star Creeper through the winter and it seems hardy, but not vigourous in winter, now blooming and about 3 inches high but are puzzled by the various names, Priatia pedunculata and Isotoma or Laurentia fluviatilis. This is strongly-growing and filling in, although I wouldn't call it invasive. More later! Just one technical question about how to format text in this -- the bolding is only producing bold symbols before and after, not bolding text. We do have some scripting turned off in our Firefox browser although I have enabled some of the features for this session.